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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 23-Sep-06 23:08:22
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Internal Complaints Procedure...


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Hi, like many others I have lot's of issues with PlusNet, not least the five-year contract; under the advise of Ofcom I'm following their [PlusNet's] own internal complaints procedure, but to date I have had no response - obviously if I get no response it's straight over the Ofcom.

Has anybody else followed this procedure and got a reply?

Thanks - Blue
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(deleted) Sun 24-Sep-06 07:15:01
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Re: Internal Complaints Procedure...


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PlusNet does not have a 5 year contract. The contract is either 1 year or 1 month depending upon the option that you took when you signed up.

The 5 years reletes to free (deferred) activation and hardware fees.

When you connect an ADSL line for the first time there is an actication fee payable to BT by the ISP. You can choose to pay this up front. Alternatively many ISPs provide an option to pay this when you leave, normally with some rules around how much you have to pay dependant upon how long you have been with the ISP. In PlusNet's case they reduce the amount payable by 20% at the end of each year. The activation fee therefore becomes free after you have been with them for 5 years. If you leave before then you owe them the activation fee minus 20% for each full year that you have been with them. This is all fully explained on their web site.

The same is true if you opted for free (deferred payment) hardware.

Here is the current wording from their web site if you follow the free set-up now available (terms apply*) links.

Want the detail? 'You stay we pay' explained.

For every year you stay with PlusNet we'll guarantee that the cancellation cost decreases. What does this mean? If you cancel within the first year, then you will pay
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 24-Sep-06 13:54:46
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Re: Internal Complaints Procedure...


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Thanks B - perhaps I worded that slightly incorrectly but the question still stands concerning the internal complaints procedure!

Thanks - Blue


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Standard User scottish_lad
(committed) Mon 25-Sep-06 09:02:08
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Re: Internal Complaints Procedure...


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Writing a letter by recorded mail would probabily be the best route to go and ask for a responce in the letter. If nothing happens raise a ticket asking them why it was ignored and request a responce again, If all else fails.... erm you can run if you like? i dont think they'll do much about complaints these days, unless circumstances warrent it.

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(deleted) Mon 25-Sep-06 09:43:24
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Hi SL, we've already gone past the ticket stage and onto the internal complaints procedure [Recorded] - I'll wait a couple of weeks and then pass it over to Ofcom; after all, this is what they [Ofcom] advised.

Blue
Standard User KingP
(newbie) Mon 25-Sep-06 14:01:44
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The easier option which i am now going to follow is to seek services from another provider that does WLR services. such as TalkTalk. sign upto them for phone side and ask that you not have the broadband and the service change will kick plusnet off the line leaving your line clear and then sign up with another provider.

Plusnet have screwed me around massively and their service is getting worse. Half the time i have a connection i cant even use it due to teh 2nd hop within their network killing my connection. ive asked for help and they dont give a flying stuff.

I signed up and was told the modem would be free. now they want to charge for it if i cease.

I was never given an opt out option when they changed the fair usage policy either which has royally peev'ed me off now as i would have taken it

Internal complaints procedure doesnt work. ive asked for a higher level complaints team contact and no joy still and also asked if it would help if asked watchdog or the like to look into the issue.

Ofcom will take an age to do anything and the easiest option is to just cease the phone line to be honest and create a stop start on the line to remove the services.
Standard User ScaryMonkey
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 25-Sep-06 14:58:06
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Be careful doing this and thinking you have walked away as you are still liable for any contractual obligations (12 months etc). To get them cancelled you would either need Plusnet to agree or to go to court and get a judgement in your favour.
It is always worth discussing with CAB or legal advice before making a move.

Vince

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Standard User KingP
(newbie) Mon 25-Sep-06 15:41:48
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I think they would really struggle inn proving their case in a small claims court as they havent offered a servcie that they wanted to, they offered other customers but not myself an opt out clause when the fair usage policy changed, and they have changed what was orginally agreed at point of sale and they dont even offer customer service anymore.

Do they even bother to come on this forum anymore as i havent been here for a while but it makes for light reading as always...
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 25-Sep-06 16:03:26
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Even with all that you say - legally the contract would still stand until such time as you reach an agreement with the provider or a court basically rips it up.

I would suggest go seek some independent advice on the matter.

http://www.adslguide.org.uk/isps/problems.asp has some hints and tips in this area

Andrew
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User KingP
(newbie) Mon 25-Sep-06 17:05:26
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Cheers Andrew.

Most annoying yet again as i cant get online with the connection. shock horror its falling over in the plusnet network again... :rolleyes:
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