usenet

30k from usenet (easynews).
Is every easynews user getting this?
Other sites are ok, but easynews is slow to load pages and pretty bad to download.

Support never offer explanation, other than deny restrictions.

I'm getting the same speed, but with a different isp.

The common thing is traffic shaping, not easynews tho.

Get full 8mb on easynews thanks

Of course - i use a decent ISP

PN have admitted on the portal that even the http side for Easynews is throttled in addition to their P2P/Usenet throttling policies.

So all the denials Ive been getting via the members centre has been lies.
They were almost inferring that I must be imagining it, and flat outright said they werent throttling or traffic shaping from easynews.
all lies.

Is there a usenet friendly ISP out there?

Unfortunately that is correct. I learnt it the hard way when I was with them and I too got the same responses from PN. They initially implied my equipment, exchange and all sorts of things could be faulty and then checked if I had been wrongly profiled on their system and traffic management. Not once was traffic shaping even mentioned to me. I then did a search for P2P on the portal and learnt what traffic shaping and throttling meant. I started asking questions - easy ones were answered by staff and then the more difficult ones went completely unanswered.

The best way I can describe it to you is with this link:
http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/network/broadband_bandwidth_usage.shtml?pn_session=34151a2236d39cea05550288a263139b

The second graph is the total bandwidth PN have bought and it shows how they distribute it to their customers. When more people are using hhtp, email and gaming there is less for P2P and when the same people go to sleep there is more available for downloading. That is fine if you want to use it in this manner so try downloading at night as it might cure the problem.

From my perspective I was given a peak time allowance that I could not use for Usenet/P2P no matter what I did because PN didn't and don't have enough peak capacity for the number of subscribers they have. I didn't like the fact that I was being forcibly told what protocols and programs I could use at different times of the day because an allowance is an allowance and how I used it was for me to decide & not PN. PN also believe in buying traffic shaping equipment (cheaper) than more bandwidth as most ISPs do. They then crammed on as many people as they could and tried to squeeze out every last drop. There is no margin in their network and hence why the first graph displays what information they are dropping/discarding from reaching its destination.

If you are happy to do your downloads late at night i.e. 3am then you could be OK with PN otherwise find some good ISP as there are many still out there.

Here is the link to verify what I have stated:
http://portal.plus.net/central/forums/viewtopic.php?p=359784&highlight=easynews#359784

http://portal.plus.net/central/forums/viewtopic.php?t=48489&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Is there a usenet friendly ISP out there?

Eclipse.

Yes the speeds during the day and evening suck, but midnight to 8am I can easily download 15-20GB a day.

How is that different to what he is getting now? Eclipse seem to be a clone of PN in every respect. They introduced traffic shaping without telling anyone and they are doing the same Tiscali LLU moves in exactly the same problematic way as PN.

If you want good speeds at all times of the day I would suggest you look at the 'Which Residential ISP' forum and ask for suggestions or better still do a search there that will throw up the answers. From the top of my head I think it is IDNET, UKFSN, Aquiss, Zen, Nildram etc. I personally am worried about Entanet and their resellers because I can't see how they will be able to provide 60GB peak and 300GB offpeak for subs they are charging. I hope I am proved wrong. Namesco are another ISP rated very highly.

edit: http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=which_isp&Number=2679977&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=2&fpart=

Edited by rsharma (Mon 02-Oct-06 12:27:57)

How is that different to what he is getting now?
Can you download 15GB a day from PlusNet? I couldn't. I was told it wasn't econimcally viable. That's why I left. (Before I was pushed).

If you want good speeds at all times of the day
What does this have to do with the OPs question re: a usenet friendly isp?

I personally am worried about Entanet and their resellers because I can't see how they will be able to provide 60GB peak and 300GB offpeak for subs they are charging. I hope I am proved wrong.
I used to regularly download 300GB+ when I was at PlusNet on a 2Mb line. Presumably those still on 2Mb lines with Zen could be doing the same. Why aren't you worried about Zen?