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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 01-Jun-07 12:13:29
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"You need to be aware of Plusnet's traffic management policies which mean at certain times of day, depending on protocol and selected package, you will not attain speeds over 50Kbps no matter how fast your connection "

That is on the entry level package on P2P and FTP type protocols - which the product is clearly and openly NOT designed for.. Medium to Higher packages fare somewhat better on those protocols if that is what the OP needs. Standard browsing/email etc is not limited in that way.

Standard User rsharma
(knowledge is power) Fri 01-Jun-07 12:35:06
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>That is on the entry level package on P2P and FTP type protocols
As already expressed by the OP and provided with a link

>which the product is clearly and openly NOT designed for..
This is the same issue that got PN in hot water with the BB+ account. If it isn't designed for it then it would be blocked, but if it's allowed, even at those limited speeds, then by definition it is designed for it.

>Standard browsing etc is not limited in that way.
It is. Some download sites and servers, even http ones, are restricted. Details in the link as provided earlier.

I really don't understand the need to challenge the earlier statement when that statement is, in fact, accurate (including the provisos) and a link provided for the person to make up their own mind.

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Edited by rsharma (Fri 01-Jun-07 12:37:31)

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(deleted) Fri 01-Jun-07 12:44:10
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There was no challenge whatsoever. Merely an addition of further detail to a generalised post. Had that post been the other way stressing best speed on highest product only from Plusnet it would have been shot down as spin. Of course spin goes both ways.

However, the post was 100% correct but stated worst case. Which would show the offerings in the worst possible light without digging further.

My post gave some balance, which I'm sure your in favour of... unless Im mistaken.

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(deleted) Fri 01-Jun-07 15:49:06
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>>Standard browsing etc is not limited in that way.
>It is. Some download sites and servers, even http ones, are
>restricted. Details in the link as provided earlier.

Perhaps to quote from the page... http://preview.tinyurl.com/2amlcv
( which goes to broadband_your_way/experience/speed.shtml ) which says:

"Internet applications not listed below, such as gaming, web surfing or video streaming have no specific restrictions at any time and are prioritised on our network at all times."

I have not seen others giving examples of sites where they are having problems with browsing. YMMV
Standard User rsharma
(knowledge is power) Fri 01-Jun-07 16:04:05
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They are restricted under 'Download Sites' and 'Download Servers'. The sites and servers that are included are listed in the link you have given.

>I have not seen others giving examples of sites where they are having problems with browsing.

I didn't say they would suffer problems. I stated that they are not completely unrestricted and in fact have speed restrictions applied as per the link.

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(deleted) Fri 01-Jun-07 16:20:03
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As posted before the bulk of the "restricted" Http sites - are those that host/file sharing. through Http - so effectively the same as P2P In a lot of instances of the more "Adult" nature and or illegal copies.

More of a concern is that there has been advice that one of the "Restricted" IP no's / ranges affects bbc.co.uk which is more noteworthy but I have never seen any speed issues on that site and I am a heavy BBC visitor.
Standard User rsharma
(knowledge is power) Fri 01-Jun-07 16:27:10
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It would appear you remember the other thread where this was discussed in great detail. That being the case I see no point in distracting this thread from its intended purpose and therefore have no reason to repeat what has been stated there. If I get the time I will find the link and post it here later for those interested in discussing it further.

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(deleted) Fri 01-Jun-07 16:35:47
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please dont be condescending. No doubt the OP was not party to it and its therefore relevant. It is therefore not off topic. A balanced view is what the Op requires and selective negative information is hardly what he deserves though some would prefer that, or is it only PN that are required not to spin and to be open and honest.
Standard User rsharma
(knowledge is power) Fri 01-Jun-07 16:38:55
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I don't know why you become so aggressive and read more than is written but I have no time for it. I leave you to it.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 01-Jun-07 17:11:33
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Not aimed specifically at RS

A balanced "open and honest" view cuts both ways - selective postings that are either negative or positive are not fair to the OP. There is a tendancy in this forum for some non/ex customers to be overly or aggressively anti for months/years after thay have had any deailings with PN as a customer and of course the opposite also applies. A Balanced "open and honest" view is more sensible.

Do you want to download large amounts via P2P / Filesharing - then PN is not the best option. Others without traffic shaping are far more suitable.

Websurfing, gaming etc then they are worthy of consideration amongst others, depending on price point etc.

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