PAYG (that's why I was on RIN when it was running) - equivalent of Pro.

I rarely go over 10GB, if I have larger downloads I do them after midnight. For my usage PN is a superb choice, but for someone that downloads a lot using P2P, Usenet or download sites and expects near line speed Plusnet is not appropriate. That's why blanket "wouldn't touch Plusnet with a bargepole" type posts are totally inappropriate without knowing the sort of usage pattern required.

if I have larger downloads I do them after midnight.

Fair enough, but not for everyone.

but for someone that downloads a lot using P2P, Usenet or download sites and expects near line speed Plusnet is not appropriate.

My bold, so where do you download your downloads from that makes PN suitable for you?

I download from download sites like Akami or usenet (Astraweb) and usually get speeds over 600KBps - because on my package everything is in the Gold or better queue. By "downloads a lot" I meant people who use more than 15GB 8am to midnight who would end up paying for the extra bandwidth if they were on Pro. For someone who's peak usage is less than 15GB Pro is a very good option.

Are you on the new pro, or on the "old one"?

PAYG 15GB special which is the same price and identical shaping to both old and new Pro (I've never seen even a hint that there was a difference between traffic management on old and new - however the new doesn't include hosting etc for new Plusnet users).

In reply to a post by jelv:

For someone who's peak usage is less than 15GB Pro is a very good option.

For those people I would recommend Newnet Home S. An extra 5GB per month off peak and a monthly contract.
Slightly more expensive [if paying monthly, cheaper if annually], fewer off peak hours and no free router, but no long tie-in and no traffic management. Speaking from experience Newnet are an excellent ISP and score better than Plusnet in the comparison checker in all categories on this site.

Edited by deleted (Sun 26-Jul-09 21:07:51)

Mine is this at 9.30pm just as a comparison http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results/id/1... it is a bit slower than usual. I download some things in the morning and otherwise after midnight which is fine, speeds have been fluctuating a bit but I have a handy little prog that shuts eveything down after 30mins so it's no problem

Just checked forum and more capacity this week and again in 3 weeks time so hopefully things will improve, don't think I'd like the value or unlimited products though

Edited by deleted (Sun 26-Jul-09 21:43:45)

In reply to a post by jelv:

I rarely go over 10GB, if I have larger downloads I do them after midnight. For my usage PN is a superb choice, but for someone that downloads a lot using P2P, Usenet or download sites and expects near line speed Plusnet is not appropriate. That's why blanket "wouldn't touch Plusnet with a bargepole" type posts are totally inappropriate without knowing the sort of usage pattern required.

As you say, the usage pattern is vitally important.

However on the previous packages I could recommend the lowest one for someone's elderly parents being introduced to broadband, (and still these turn up remarkably frequently), as the equivalent Newnet was a 12-month contract and more expensive - the better Newnet throughput being irrelevant. I cannot really do that now with an 18-month contract in place.

Pro I still can recommend for low usage gamers, and the previous (non-Pro) 15GB package made a lot of sense in particular to Newnet Lite (3GB) users having to upgrade to the Newnet 12GB one at a higher cost than Plusnet 15GB. Several did this, but even then they were worried about the shaping. They were able to make the jump for the same reason I was able to jump to O2 - the getout clause.

I think the only acceptable package on Plusnet for now is Pro, but it is absolutely certain the sites like uSwitch will continue to bring in many poor mis-guided souls.

The marketing men are not wrong on the changes unfortunately.

There I agree with you...

just for the record.. on a point of principle I would not sign another 12 month contract with PN.. Nothing to do with service that has been smooth and as I would expect just the the well discussed subject of forcing existing customers to sign up for 12 months if they want to take advantage of the new plans.

1) My legacy product is less rate limited (marginally)
2) Well within download limits...

In reply to a post by paddyclark:

There I agree with you...

You lot are trying to mess with my mind I reckon.....and it's working.