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(deleted) Wed 07-Apr-10 15:57:35
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Banded profile due to ES and SES


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Since joining PN on the 21CN (moved over from tiscali LLU) I have had one day of normal sync which was just over 12mbps and since have had a banded profile applied to my line.

I must admit that it has stabilized my line and have just had 120hours uptime at 6656kbps but still with ES and SES, there is obviously some noise on the line somewhere. The line didn't drop at 12mbps, I just had more errors.

PN technical initially raised a fault for me but then the faults team came back and told me that there is no fault on the line and that the band should be left in place so that my line is stable.

I've asked for it to be removed in hope that I might be able to sustain a connection at an un-banded speed but have been warned that they can only remove it one, if it is reapplied, it's applied forever it seems.

Being told to leave the band in place, if you ask me, is an unacceptable resolution - that's like having a spare wheel on your car is it not? It'll do the job, but you didn't buy the car to have it restricted to 50mph, ha!

Basically, does anyone have any opinion, direction or knowledge that I could leach to improve my situation?
I've asked on the PN forums and had no help from any of their staff, just forum members, and obviously the faults department are unwilling too take it up with BTW.

I don't have any extensions in my house and my router is plugged into the test socket, here's a copy and paste of some stat's from my DG834GT with the latest DGTeam firmware..

Any help would be greatly received smile

/usr/sbin/adslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: ShowtimeRetrain Reason: 0
Channel: FAST, Upstream rate = 834 Kbps, Downstream rate = 6656 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: ADSL2+
Channel: Fast
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 15.8 4.9
Attn(dB): 36.0 20.5
Pwr(dBm): 21.0 12.4
Max(Kbps): 11000 20640
Rate (Kbps): 6656 834
G.dmt framing
K: 209(0) 35
R: 0 16
S: 1 2
D: 1 8
ADSL2 framing
MSGc: 59 24
B: 208 34
M: 1 2
T: 1 4
R: 0 16
S: 1.0000 2.6666
L: 1672 258
D: 1 8
Counters
SF: 4718050 1916676
SFErr(CRCErr): 162 54079
RS: 0 3331462
RSCorr: 0 3060675
RSUnCorr: 0 0

HEC: 82 135147
OCD: 1 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 1203554522 1560092382
Data Cells: 12709858 67591658
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 7787702

ES: 148 180494
SES: 0 465907
UAS: 19 147411
AS(Uptime): 76669

INP: 0.00 1.98
PER: 16.25 40.00
delay: 0.25 5.33
OR: 32.00 6.00

Bitswap: 74 8508
Total uptime: 76669

Total time = 21 hours 18 min 29 sec
SF = 4718050
CRC = 162
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 148
Latest 1 day time = 21 hours 18 min 29 sec
SF = 4718050
CRC = 162
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 148
Latest 15 minutes time = 3 min 29 sec
SF = 12839
CRC = 1
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 1
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
SF = 55427
CRC = 2
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 2
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
SF = 0
CRC = 0
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 0
15 minutes interval [-30 min to -15 min] time = 15 min 0 sec
SF = 55366
CRC = 3
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 3
15 minutes interval [-45 min to -30 min] time = 15 min 0 sec
SF = 55365
CRC = 2
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 2
15 minutes interval [-60 min to -45 min] time = 15 min 0 sec
SF = 55366
CRC = 2
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 2
Showtime Drop Reason: 0
Last Retrain Reason: 0
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 13-Apr-10 14:39:21
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Re: Banded profile due to ES and SES


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If you're plugged into the test socket, aren't using extension cabling, have swapped the filter and have nothing else plugged into the line (including any other extensions sockets you have around the house) then you've pretty much done all you can to eliminate problems at your side.

If we haven't done so already then it might be worth us removing the banding to see what happens.

If it is reapplied though then you might have to accept that the line's not going to perform above the speed limitation of the banding frown
Standard User RobertoS
(legend) Tue 13-Apr-10 23:15:55
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Re: Banded profile due to ES and SES


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In reply to a post by bpullen:
If you're plugged into the test socket, aren't using extension cabling, have swapped the filter and have nothing else plugged into the line (including any other extensions sockets you have around the house) then you've pretty much done all you can to eliminate problems at your side.

If we haven't done so already then it might be worth us removing the banding to see what happens.

If it is reapplied though then you might have to accept that the line's not going to perform above the speed limitation of the banding frown
There's an illogicality in what he was told, and you repeat it.

If banding is in place and can only be removed once, so that if it has to be re-applied it then becomes permanent, under what circumstances does it not make sense to remove it? Are BT Wholesale saying that if it is permanently applied and Openreach later replace the whole line with new cabling then tough - the banding has to remain?

If it is not removed, then it is de facto permanent anyway.

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Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Wed 14-Apr-10 09:33:22
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Re: Banded profile due to ES and SES


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As a matter of interest have you tried switching the router setting to connect on ADSL2 instead of ADSL2+ and compared the stats and speeds?

Alastair

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