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Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Mon 16-Jan-12 10:22:30
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This isn't the image of Plusnet I want to see!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abibjZFK32Q&list=PLA4...

Just what sort of user are they trying to attract?

jelv

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Standard User camieabz
(sensei) Mon 16-Jan-12 11:24:01
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If it's cheap and keeping down prices, while raising revenue, who cares. That's what companies think these days, and their shareholders generally agree.

Decided lack of women though. Sexist. smile

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Scottish Labour politician: “The SNP are on a very dangerous tack. What they are doing is trying to build up a situation in Scotland where the services are manifestly better than south of the border in a number of areas.”

Interviewer: ”Is that a bad thing?”

Scottish Labour politician: “No, but they are doing it deliberately.”
Standard User wingco1
(legend) Mon 16-Jan-12 11:31:54
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Calm down dear it's only a commercial. smile


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Standard User GeorgeLloyd
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 16-Jan-12 11:41:57
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Just goes to show how far PlusNet have sunk in the past couple of years.

George
plusnet smile
Standard User DavidFinbarr
(freechataholic) Mon 16-Jan-12 12:08:22
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In reply to a post by jelv:
This isn't the image of Plusnet I want to see!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abibjZFK32Q&list=PLA4...

Just what sort of user are they trying to attract?


The ones that watch brain dead TV instead of using their BB width wink

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 16-Jan-12 13:45:17
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If it's cheap and keeping down prices, while raising revenue, who cares. That's what companies think these days, and their shareholders generally agree.
Sponsoring something means spending money, presumably quite a bit. So unless it attracts enough new customers to recover the expenditure it could be loss-making.

At Plusnet broadband prices either BB are desperate for a few hundred quid, or PN will never recoup the cost.

As for the clips themselves, I watched as far as the middle of the one with the granny. The viewed numbers seemed to have declined rapidly from the opening paltry 116. (At the time).

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Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Mon 16-Jan-12 16:57:57
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Just what sort of user are they trying to attract?

Any type that's willing to sign up to PN, they don't give a jot who or what you are as long as the money keeps coming in.

Alastair

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 16-Jan-12 17:59:32
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In reply to a post by Apprentice:
Just what sort of user are they trying to attract?
Any type that's willing to sign up to PN, they don't give a jot who or what you are as long as the money keeps coming in.
Which belies the question just what sort of user are they trying to repel?

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Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Mon 16-Jan-12 19:30:44
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
In reply to a post by Apprentice:
Just what sort of user are they trying to attract?
Any type that's willing to sign up to PN, they don't give a jot who or what you are as long as the money keeps coming in.
Which belies the question just what sort of user are they trying to repel?

Once again I don't think they will be bothered, those that are repelled will perhaps be deemed as collateral damage tongue smile

Alastair

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Standard User camieabz
(sensei) Mon 16-Jan-12 21:52:55
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You have to appreciate that the sponsoring is less about advertising in a blatent way, and more about the name of the sponsor entering the subconscious. I don't watch Big Brother and millions don't, but those that do will know of another ISP by the end of the show (it's over several weeks).

So then when people look around they'll think of the ones they know of, and probably look first at the ones they've heard most recently. The taste (or lack of taste) is secondary. Most people switch off at breaktime anyway, but they'll be back in time for..."Sponsored by Plusnet."

Can't remember the show(s) offhand, but there were several with "Sponsored by Cadbury's". Some detective show iirc (my gf watches a lot of telly compred to me). I don't drink hot chocolate, but if I did, Cadbury's would be in the subconscious, unless I had a preferred alternative.

I wouldn't think it will make a loss. At worst it will maintain churn rates, probably reduce them and at best increase the customer base. It's a gamble though. If the BB house folk are boring, viewing figures will tumble and exposure will drop. Even worse, folk switch off to BB and associate PN with a negative viewing experience.

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Scottish Labour politician: “The SNP are on a very dangerous tack. What they are doing is trying to build up a situation in Scotland where the services are manifestly better than south of the border in a number of areas.”

Interviewer: ”Is that a bad thing?”

Scottish Labour politician: “No, but they are doing it deliberately.”
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 16-Jan-12 21:56:59
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my gf watches a lot of telly compred to me
She'd rather watch telly than watch you? Awwww .... wink

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Standard User kasg
(committed) Tue 17-Jan-12 16:06:06
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In reply to a post by camieabz:
You have to appreciate that the sponsoring is less about advertising in a blatant way, and more about the name of the sponsor entering the subconscious. I don't watch Big Brother and millions don't, but those that do will know of another ISP by the end of the show (it's over several weeks).

Exactly, I'm underwhelmed by Plusnet choosing to sponsor this so-called entertainment, but it must surely be much more effective than conventional TV advertising and so, I presume, rather more expensive. The main reason in my case is that I watch nothing in real time, it's always recorded, so the ads are always skipped, but the sponsorship breaker is exactly what you look for when skipping the adverts.

Kevin

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Standard User Zadeks
(committed) Tue 17-Jan-12 16:48:20
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Lighten up.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 17-Jan-12 18:26:40
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Lighten up.
Surely the last thing that sort of gormless joking, (it cannot be called humour), is going to do is lighten anyone's day. Or are you going to say you find it funny and entertaining?

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Standard User Zadeks
(committed) Tue 17-Jan-12 18:30:21
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It's amusing. Are you over the age of 40 by any chance?
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 17-Jan-12 18:40:15
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Well over. It isn't. It's mindless junk, and nothing to do with age.

Are you ageist by any chance?

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Standard User Zadeks
(committed) Tue 17-Jan-12 18:43:04
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I would expect such a response from a member of your age group. They can't please everyone!
Standard User martinsq
(newbie) Wed 18-Jan-12 01:16:05
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As a long term (5+years) customer of PlusNet I have to deal with them on regular basis.
So far I deemed it being well run by intelligent people, now I am not sure !
Surely they must know Big Bro is the most IDIOTIC program on UK's TV !
Why would they want to be associated with that (censored) ?

Quite frankly I would change ISP's,
but as a moderate user on Market 1 exchange I have no sensible alternative frown
Regards,
M
Standard User ukhardy07
(committed) Wed 18-Jan-12 01:25:56
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Personally I think it's good marketing

It gets people talking and hence increases brand awareness. I know so many people who have no idea plus net exists.

Things like this make people consider plus net when getting broadband whereas it wouldn't enter their minds otherwise.

& it's also a little bit of light humour - whether it's too your taste or not.

& yes it might be tack but that's a part of life nowadays
Standard User m0aur
(committed) Wed 18-Jan-12 02:20:39
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Why would you need to regularly deal with an ISP if they were well run?. As for alternatives on a Market 1 exchange, check out the Post Office Unlimited Broadband Extra and Home Phone, much cheaper than PN and a lot more included.

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Standard User Zadeks
(committed) Wed 18-Jan-12 09:19:11
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Get over it.

Do you watch Big Brother? Nope.
Are you the target audience? Nope.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 18-Jan-12 09:41:31
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Get over it.

Do you watch Big Brother? Nope.
Are you the target audience? Nope.
Now that's what I call funny smile. Though it means I am admitting there can be humour in tragedy, which is what that is.

There is a small possibility you will get over it, but you won't understand what I'm saying until you have done.

There's a high possibility you won't get over it though, which is a heck of a shame and shows that the powers that want the proletariat to sit and watch films whilst gobbling popcorn, mind-numbing TV and 24/7/365 football are winning. Thus fuelling their continued dominance and superb lifestyle - that you are paying for.

Unless you are one of those who get their income from the state - in which case you are just re-cycling tax-payer money to the same end. If you are in a job and paying tax, then it's time you woke up.

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Standard User DavidFinbarr
(freechataholic) Wed 18-Jan-12 12:20:53
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It won't affect many people.

Most people than don't watch BB won't know about the advert.

I wouldn't have known, unless coming into a forum,
and most don't bother with forums.

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Standard User mixt
(experienced) Wed 18-Jan-12 12:27:45
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In reply to a post by ukhardy07:
Personally I think it's good marketing

I agree. For an ISP which is "for the masses", piggy backing on "Celebrity Big Brother" (an entertainment show, "for the masses") fits their image perfectly. People will either take to it, or they won't. That's for their customers (and potential new customers) to decide. Personally, CBB doesn't interest me, so neither does PlusNet.

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Standard User kasg
(committed) Wed 18-Jan-12 15:55:27
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Personally, CBB doesn't interest me, so neither does PlusNet.
I believe that is what is called a non-sequitur.

Kevin

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Standard User TheHorseman
(knowledge is power) Wed 18-Jan-12 16:26:17
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It's mindless junk, and nothing to do with age.

Absolutely, TV for the masses. (and yes I'm over 40 too).

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Standard User Roberto1
(learned) Thu 19-Jan-12 09:15:00
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Perhaps we shouldn't forget the old saying "no-one ever lost money through underestimating the taste of the British public" smile
Standard User ionic
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 19-Jan-12 09:28:53
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Plusnet 5+ years ago was a succesful, innovative ISP.
PLusnet nowadays (since BT bought them) appear to be being marketed as BT's chav brand, selling solely on price with an image far distant from corporate BT
Standard User kasg
(committed) Thu 19-Jan-12 09:38:21
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In reply to a post by ionic:
Plusnet 5+ years ago was a succesful, innovative ISP.
PLusnet nowadays (since BT bought them) appear to be being marketed as BT's chav brand, selling solely on price with an image far distant from corporate BT
And, dare I say it, customer service far distant from BT (i.e. a lot better!)

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Standard User camieabz
(sensei) Thu 19-Jan-12 09:58:12
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In reply to a post by ionic:
PLusnet nowadays (since BT bought them) appear to be being marketed as BT's chav brand


Who cares, as long as it works. Try Zen's prices and feel important if you like.

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Scottish Labour politician: “The SNP are on a very dangerous tack. What they are doing is trying to build up a situation in Scotland where the services are manifestly better than south of the border in a number of areas.”

Interviewer: ”Is that a bad thing?”

Scottish Labour politician: “No, but they are doing it deliberately.”
Standard User martinsq
(newbie) Fri 20-Jan-12 01:33:50
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Why would you need to regularly deal with an ISP if they were well run?


Had a problem with line noise, took 3 visits by BT engineers, last one changed the DSLAM
(they were is short supply).
Added a phone rental / service.
Had to upgrade (2 teenagers won't go to 2GB).
Now have to re-negotiate price every six months to match BT offers.
All my problems were dealt with well, apart from some 'off subject' email replies.
Regards,
Martin
Standard User martinsq
(newbie) Fri 20-Jan-12 23:10:11
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.....check out the Post Office Unlimited Broadband Extra and Home Phone, much cheaper than PN and a lot more included.


NOT SO.
PO extra is 26.05 p.m., but they don't include, or even do Anytime calls.
PlusNet costs me £25 p.m WITH Anytime calls, which, working from home, I need more then unlimited downloads. (That's matching BT 'summer' offer wink
I can manage on 10GB p.m. with overnight downloads.
And in fact I pay quite bit less, as I have some referrals.

Regards,
Martin
Standard User m0aur
(committed) Fri 20-Jan-12 23:21:36
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In reply to a post by martinsq:
In reply to a post by m0aur:
.....check out the Post Office Unlimited Broadband Extra and Home Phone, much cheaper than PN and a lot more included.


NOT SO.
PO extra is 26.05 p.m., but they don't include, or even do Anytime calls.
PlusNet costs me £25 p.m WITH Anytime calls, which, working from home, I need more then unlimited downloads. (That's matching BT 'summer' offer wink
I can manage on 10GB p.m. with overnight downloads.
And in fact I pay quite bit less, as I have some referrals.

Regards,
Martin

Yes, but some like to actually use their broadband, along with free calls to mobiles, no charge for caller display or for not paying by direct debit. You must do a real lot of 'Work' to get by on 10Gb. With all the takeovers, it will end with just BT or LLU.

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Edited by m0aur (Fri 20-Jan-12 23:23:48)

Standard User pcoventry76
(knowledge is power) Sat 21-Jan-12 10:59:52
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In reply to a post by jelv:
This isn't the image of Plusnet I want to see!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abibjZFK32Q&list=PLA4...

Just what sort of user are they trying to attract?


no idea but it's something i don't want either so I am sure they will be chuffed to hear i'm taking my £42 a month elsewhere.
Standard User pcoventry76
(knowledge is power) Sat 21-Jan-12 11:01:38
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In reply to a post by martinsq:
As a long term (5+years) customer of PlusNet I have to deal with them on regular basis.
So far I deemed it being well run by intelligent people, now I am not sure !
Surely they must know Big Bro is the most IDIOTIC program on UK's TV !
Why would they want to be associated with that (censored) ?

Quite frankly I would change ISP's,
but as a moderate user on Market 1 exchange I have no sensible alternative frown
Regards,
M


i am sure talk talk and the CPW dumped it because it made them look like the program - cheap and nasty! frown
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 21-Jan-12 12:47:00
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In reply to a post by pcoventry76:
In reply to a post by jelv:
This isn't the image of Plusnet I want to see!
... Just what sort of user are they trying to attract?
no idea but it's something i don't want either so I am sure they will be chuffed to hear i'm taking my £42 a month elsewhere.
?
Whilst I agree with the sentiment, and could understand it putting you off joining, migrating away purely because of it seems a little disproportionate?

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Standard User pcoventry76
(knowledge is power) Sat 21-Jan-12 15:04:30
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maybe. but when theres a better service on offer it's a no brainer. the CBB bit just shows me that they only seem to care for new customers - screw the current/old ones.
Standard User martinsq
(newbie) Sun 22-Jan-12 00:52:32
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Yes, but some like to actually use their broadband, along with free calls to mobiles, no charge for caller display or for not paying by direct debit. You must do a real lot of 'Work' to get by on 10Gb. With all the takeovers, it will end with just BT or LLU.


Free calls to mobiles WOULD be good, but just at weekends makes very little difference,
as we would still need our mobiles rest of the week, and when out and about !

Obviously you have no idea of what 'work' is. We don't watch utube all day !
Wife and I receive and return 10 to 50 pages of document by email every working day,
but that 'barely scratches the surface' of the usage.
Research on the internet uses lot more, but even that was fine when we had 2GB.
It's the two teenagers who use most of the 10 GB !
Martin
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(committed) Sun 22-Jan-12 01:03:02
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In reply to a post by pcoventry76:
the CBB bit just shows me that they only seem to care for new customers - screw the current/old ones.

I'm not sure that "junk tv" equates to "junk isp", but I understand why people would feel this way.

As an existing customer, I would prefer PN to spend its money on improving service, reducing tariffs, increasing download speeds, before shelling out on advertising and sponsorships.

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Standard User m0aur
(committed) Sun 22-Jan-12 09:24:12
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That would be no good to many of us in this digital age. I am fed up with sitting up all night to download with Plusnet. 90Gb overnight this last week, with about 8gb daytime till the allowance fills up!
Sky totally unlimited BB at £5 per month for non-Sky customers is looking very tempting.
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5485/plusnet.jpg

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2027/plusnetspeed.jpg
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Moderator Sadoldman
(moderator) Sun 22-Jan-12 09:53:55
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...... Sky totally unlimited BB at £5 per month for non-Sky customers is looking very tempting........

If it were a stand alone offer it would be fantastic...but it is not.

It is conditional on taking line rental so going full LLU...perhaps not a deal breaker for many (it may be for some) but the headline BB cost is misleading when additional costs and a 12 month line rental contract are mandatory.

Sadoldman

Just a tad sad..a wee bit old...wink

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Standard User m0aur
(committed) Sun 22-Jan-12 10:31:28
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In reply to a post by Sadoldman:
In reply to a post by m0aur:
...... Sky totally unlimited BB at £5 per month for non-Sky customers is looking very tempting........

If it were a stand alone offer it would be fantastic...but it is not.

It is conditional on taking line rental so going full LLU...perhaps not a deal breaker for many (it may be for some) but the headline BB cost is misleading when additional costs and a 12 month line rental contract are mandatory.

I don't know where you get the idea of LLU from, there is no mention of it to me, plus they would have a job on a Market 1 exchange, though I realise the likelihood of auto-switching to LLU at a later date is quite possible from such a money-grabbing bunch. I don't see Sky line rental a problem at £12.25 including off-peak calls. can you tell me a way to work without line rental? No ISP can offer that all for £17.25. Even the much praised Plusnet charge £23.48 and it has a 60Gb cap.

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Edited by m0aur (Sun 22-Jan-12 11:07:32)

Moderator Sadoldman
(moderator) Sun 22-Jan-12 12:02:53
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I made the assumption of LLU because I have yet to see anyone recommend their ADSL vanilla offering.....all the posts I have seen by users of this product makes it hard to recommend...at any price.

As for line rental when on LLU you are fully unbundled so when wishing to move the MAC system does not operate so you have to transfer the line to the new ISP with possible expense and downtime.

Cost is not everything, and the ease of freedom to change is a great weapon in keeping ISPs honest.

Sadoldman

Just a tad sad..a wee bit old...wink

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 22-Jan-12 12:16:33
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Sky Unlimited is LLU

Market 1, as you say, is not LLU. It is Sky Connect.

40GB limit. £17pm. See this page.

As sadoldman says, its reputation is dreadful.

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Standard User wingco1
(legend) Sun 22-Jan-12 12:31:21
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There are some Sky Unlimited customers who are on LLU but retained the land line with BT. New customers however have to go fully unbundled to Sky.
Standard User m0aur
(committed) Sun 22-Jan-12 13:21:32
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I am aware of their reputation and if cheap is what you pay, cheap is what you get, which is why I am thinking of returning to B.T. despite saying I never would because of the price. I realise their offshore customer services leave a lot to desire, but I never needed them and to be perfectly honest, the customer services were equally inept everywhere I have been. The biggest plus for me, was the compatibility of the HomeHub, all other routers are a nightmare here with multiple multimedia devices and computers. An expensive Dratek Vigor 2710n could not stick the pace, and I have just had to restart the Billion BiPak 7800N to let the Internet through again despite it showing DSL & Internet lights. Getting expensive.
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Edited by m0aur (Sun 22-Jan-12 13:25:03)

Moderator Sadoldman
(moderator) Sun 22-Jan-12 13:44:17
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In reply to a post by wingco1:
There are some Sky Unlimited customers who are on LLU but retained the land line with BT. New customers however have to go fully unbundled to Sky.

There are even some that went with for line rental to Sky( in the very early days of Sky) and kept their BT line...so BT were out of the loop as regards payments, but not full LLU.

I recently read a post where someone in that situation and was written to by Sky advising that his land line was being "upgraded"....I assumed transferred to their own equipment, and made fully LLU. I did ask if an option was given but did not get a reply. I am almost certain that those in that situation were given an opt out when Sky orignally started connecting to their own equipment, but this was many moons ago.

IMO if there was not a significant cost reduction there is no advantage to the customer but certainly would be for Sky.

As in keeping with the thread I am now going to evict myself...sounds painful..... but it's not I assure you.smile

Sadoldman

Just a tad sad..a wee bit old...wink

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Standard User pcoventry76
(knowledge is power) Sun 22-Jan-12 18:53:19
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yup - totally agree!
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