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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 04-Aug-16 21:52:40
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and that is the end of my contract, not going to renew, will just carry on now until I find something that suits me for the price if I ever do.

Adrian

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Standard User Andrue
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 05-Aug-16 16:59:31
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I've been doing that for a year now. Nothing much has come up although the recent price change announcement by AAISP needs a look.

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 05-Aug-16 17:11:50
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AAISP is pretty pricey, they would have to change a lot to be honest.
so far I have not found anything really, I keep getting emails from Vodafone, but they are offer less than plusnet for more money and I can not see the service being any better.

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 05-Aug-16 18:01:17
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AAISP is pretty pricey, they would have to change a lot to be honest.

Yes I find myself using about 120gb of data a month. AAISP would be insane cost for that usage. (I assume its all the machines I have to update here, and my occasional NetFlix usage).

BTW - Your contract doesn't end, all that ends is the "minimum term" and it technically still an active contract, so you have follow the terms for ending/migration if you do want to close/migrate. This is the same with mobile phones, car leases etc, all contracts.

My minimum term was up in Jan, and my line rental saver expired in May, so I'm now free, but staying put for now.

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Standard User Andrue
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 05-Aug-16 18:55:12
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AAISP is pretty pricey, they would have to change a lot to be honest.
Yeah. I've just reviewed it and it's still £35pcm v. £23pcm. Much as I like to say we don't pay enough for BB in the UK a 50% price hike for nothing other than IPv6 just isn't worth it. My PN connection continues to operate without a flaw and IPv6 remains irrelevant.

So I'll be staying with PN.

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Standard User Andrue
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 05-Aug-16 19:00:12
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BTW - Your contract doesn't end, all that ends is the "minimum term" and it technically still an active contract, so you have follow the terms for ending/migration if you do want to close/migrate.
Well yes but those conditions are minimal. They can be summed up as 'Do nothing and wait ten days' smile

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 05-Aug-16 21:26:00
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Mine is around the 100GB.

I realise that it is the minimum term that is ending and not the contract, yes i choose the wrong word to use.

Adrian

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 05-Aug-16 21:32:51
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Yeah. I've just reviewed it and it's still £35pcm v. £23pcm. Much as I like to say we don't pay enough for BB in the UK a 50% price hike for nothing other than IPv6 just isn't worth it. My PN connection continues to operate without a flaw and IPv6 remains irrelevant.

So I'll be staying with PN.


i just had a look, 100Gb for £35 a month then line rental on top, if you go over 100Gb that is another tenner. Seems very out of date now to have a limited service, certainly at those prices, i did see the 1TB service for £50 a month then again line rental on top, but they also said about have a line for broadband only, but you will still have to pay for it.

i am sure AAISP offers a good service, but way too much for me price wise and as you said being on IPv4 only have not made a difference to us. i doubt many providers are using IPv 6 anyway at the moment.
I will stay as I am and just look and see what comes up as long as Plusnet do not bug me now that the minimum term have come to the end.

Adrian

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Standard User Kenneth
(legend) Fri 05-Aug-16 21:53:47
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i did see the 1TB service for £50 a month then again line rental on top

Funny how things have changed - when I first got broadband it was £50 a month (cheapest was BT at £40 IIRC) + line rental, fortunately it dropped to about £25 or so a few months later

When Plusnet announced the dropping of 40:20 I looked at alternatives, but despite Plusnet support having been bad the couple of times I have had to contact them, it doesn't look like any of the other big ones are better - I am not sure I'd gain anything moving so just stayed

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Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Sat 06-Aug-16 08:06:22
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AAISP now don't charge extra for 80/20 which helps.

Pulse8 is one of the obvious choices for line rental at only £13 per month and way lower call charges than BT/Plusnet.

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 06-Aug-16 19:38:46
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Funny how things have changed - when I first got broadband it was £50 a month (cheapest was BT at £40 IIRC) + line rental, fortunately it dropped to about £25 or so a few months later


the years 2000 I got broadband I think, Bt have just updated our exchange and offered me free connection, I had a lodger here at the time and dial up was pretty slow with two computers connected at the same time.
So I said I would get ADSL Broadband) if she paid half,to which she agreed, it was about £50 I think and line rental, then it reduced after a while.

so yes times have changed and prices have got lowered, the problem is i am not sure if the service is that much better, faster maybe, but not better .


When Plusnet announced the dropping of 40:20 I looked at alternatives, but despite Plusnet support having been bad the couple of times I have had to contact them, it doesn't look like any of the other big ones are better - I am not sure I'd gain anything moving so just stayed


Same here at the moment, even with offers, a lot of them requires a connection fee so any gain by the offers will be lost by the fee.

Adrian

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 06-Aug-16 19:44:49
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so yes times have changed and prices have got lowered, the problem is i am not sure if the service is that much better, faster maybe, but not better .
Isn't that the point? That you have that the wrong way round?

Times have changed and costs, and so prices, have been lowered by cutting the service. It is still available at the inflation-updated £50 you were willing to pay in 2000, along with "up to" 76.19.5Mbps unlimited usage. (Which I don't think your £50 would have been).

AAISP 1 terabyte package.

(Subject fixed wink)

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 07-Aug-16 06:43:20
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Isn't that the point? That you have that the wrong way round?


What to mean the wrong way around? Services have got faster, but customer service have got worse and reliability have got worse.
at least with ADSl I had a constant speed, with this Fibre stuff I may have 24 one day and the next day it may go down to 15.


Times have changed and costs, and so prices, have been lowered by cutting the service. It is still available at the inflation-updated £50 you were willing to pay in 2000, along with "up to" 76.19.5Mbps unlimited usage. (Which I don't think your £50 would have been).

AAISP 1 terabyte package.

(Subject fixed wink)


Braodband is now classed more as a utility service, so prices have to stay lowish, the main problem with broadband in this country is that one company have got the majority of the network. sure we have Virgin if you are lucky to live in a place where Virgin operate and Talk Talk is doing their own network, but they are only available in larger cities, not that I would want to touch anything to do with Talk Talk.

76 Mb/s is great if you can get it, not that i would want it, but it would be nice to get the speed I had when I first came onto fibre.
It is a shame that the company I was with before i came to plusnet decided to give up broadband, I moved because they could not keep tot he speed I wanted and there was going to update their network, I would have gone back then, sadly they could not compeate against BT updating exhanges in the sticks. the only reason BT done that is because they had money from other sources.

AAISP may sound good , you think you getting a better service for that £50, the problem is they still rely on BT and it is BT system that is up the shoot.

Adrian

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 07-Aug-16 08:37:47
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The speed you can get for £25, or under £40 if you were including line rental in your £50 is unimaginably better than what you got then. Not forgetting the amount you can download and upload either.

There are three basic components to "service".

1) The broadband itself, covered above. The problem is that, given what is now being supplied over a network designed to carry voice only, things are going to go wrong. I'm not just talking about the fact copper is used, I'm mainly talking about the speed that can be attained.

2) The capacity provision by the ISP to supply its customers. When you were paying your £50 it was budgeted at best in the low hundreds of kbps per customer, (probably at that time not even in the hundreds). Plus you needed to turn your modem off when not in use.

If they provision insufficient then congestion, traffic management or both become inevitable. What keeps provision low? The price the customer pays.

3) Given the technology is fragile, as in (1) above, the third component is the Customer Service provided. Once again, the main factor is cost. £22.50 to Plusnet clearly isn't going to provide the same level of CS or bandwidth provision per customer as £60 to AAISP. When the technology fails, it is clear which of those two examples provides the superior CS.

£50 now is, as I pointed out, a huge amount less than the £50 you were paying for something that these days would be useless.

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Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 57825/13835kbps @ 600m. - BQM
Standard User Andrue
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 07-Aug-16 12:34:37
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at least with ADSl I had a constant speed, with this Fibre stuff I may have 24 one day and the next day it may go down to 15.
You need to get that raised as a fault. It's not normal for PN customers and not normal for FTTC either. Either your line has a fault or your exchange has capacity issues. My router says I've been connected for 97 days now and this is a speed test from 8pm Friday:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/button/14704...

That graph is typical of what I get whenever I run a speed test. You should not put up with a second-rate service. Get it sorted.

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 07-Aug-16 14:20:00
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You need to get that raised as a fault. It's not normal for PN customers and not normal for FTTC either. Either your line has a fault or your exchange has capacity issues.

Agreed, mine is rock solid 48/49/50mbps month for month for month.

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