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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 20-Apr-17 16:42:45
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I just received the Report Card from Samknows for the month of March and I have noticed that my download speed has decreased from over 16+Mbps to around 12 Mbps and upload speed has decreased from 1.0Mbps to 0.5Mbps, my line SN margin has gone up from 3.0dB to 13.1dB. For the past 10 years or more I have had a download speed of around 16+Mbps and a SN margin of 3.0dB first with O2 and then with PlusNet when O2 was sold to Sky.
I live around 850m from my exchange and the distance from the exchange to cabinet (2) is 700m and from cabinet (2) to my house is 150m. I do not have any telephone boxes extensions. I have done a line noise test and there is no noise on the line. So I am no wiser as to why this decrease in download speed and increase in SN margin has occurred since February this year and what can be done to return to my original download speed and SN margin.

Any suggestions as to why this has happened?

Past Flash Speedtest Results
Thu 20/04/17 00:08
12.28 Mbps 12.22 Mbps 0.52 Mbps 143.159.xxx.102 PlusNet
Wed 04/01/17 22:51
16.66 Mbps 14.98 Mbps 0.80 Mbps 143.159.xxx.108 PlusNet
Mon 30/11/15 14:25
16.88 Mbps 16.88 Mbps 1.04 Mbps 146.90.xx.105 PlusNet
Fri 06/11/15 13:49
16.91 Mbps 16.87 Mbps 1.04 Mbps 146.90.xx.105 PlusNet
Sat 24/10/15 14:18
17.04 Mbps 16.92 Mbps 1.02 Mbps 87.115.xxx.105 PlusNet

Router stats today 20/4/2017
Uptime: 29 days, 2:31:01
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 651 / 14.335
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [GB/GB]: 1,87 / 1,10
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,8 / 0,0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 8,2 / 20,0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 8,7 / 13,1
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 540 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 64 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 3.024 / 36
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 271 / 4.871
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 369 / 145.678
Distance from exchange to house
http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s524/scopio1/201...
Speedtest when first joined PlusNet
http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s524/scopio1/201...
Speedtest now
http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s524/scopio1/201...
Graph when speed dropped
http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s524/scopio1/Feb...
Log stats
http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s524/scopio1/Rou... 2017 stats
http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s524/scopio1/Mar...
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 20-Apr-17 20:03:58
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Looks likely that higher target noise margins have resulted in reduced sync speeds

A line attenuation of 20dB is more inline with 1.5 to 1.8km cabinet.

The 'loss of' counters suggest something is up, its worth giving the router a complete reboot, power off, count to 10 and back on to see what happens to the connection stats.

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 21-Apr-17 02:52:57
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I have now done a router reboot as you suggested above and the download speed has remained the same @ 12.3Mbps but the upload has increased to the usual 1Mbps.
The router stats after rebooting
Uptime: 0 days, 0:22:39
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1.263 / 14.335
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 4,78 / 49,65
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,7 / 0,0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 6,9 / 19,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 6,0 / 12,9
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0

The only new developing issue that I know about is that BT Openreach has install a new cabinet literally across the road from me although I did see them lay the ducts in the opposite direction to my house so I am wondering if they have swapped my line to this new cabinet and my line now comes the long way round! Would this explain the line attenuation of 20dB?
Position of new cabinet
http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s524/scopio1/201...
New cabinet
http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s524/scopio1/201...
BT ADSL Checker for my telephone number
http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s524/scopio1/201...


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 21-Apr-17 08:42:34
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The new cabinet is the FTTC twin for your existing cabinet.

THis is confirmed by the top two sets of numbers in the speed checker that show you could get the full 80/20 service.

Regarding the drop in speed, it's possible something got disturbed while they were running the tie cables from the FTTC cab to the normal one.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 21-Apr-17 09:04:30
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Without knowing what the attenuation was previously impossible to comment

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 21-Apr-17 14:30:12
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Perhaps these previous stats from 2014 can help

Router Stats Saturday 22 Nov 2014
Uptime: 42 days, 7:19:05
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1.235 / 20.707
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/GB]: 236,73 / 1,99
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,4 / 0,0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 10,6 / 19,0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 5,7 / 2,8
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 8.277 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 320 / 10.800
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 674 / 68.606

And After major outrage 30/11/14
Uptime: 0 days, 4:06:30
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1.219 / 20.527
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 2,73 / 24,64
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 11,9 / 0,0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 10,5 / 19,0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 6,4 / 3,0
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 20 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 20
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 122
Notice that on these two sets of stats the SN Margin are much lower than at present!
My instinct as to what may have happened is that around the 22nd of February 2017 the BT Openreach engineer/s must have disturbed something in Cabinet 2 which is why the SN Margin and the speed have changed so much from previously and indicated by the SamKnows graph http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s524/scopio1/Feb... .
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 21-Apr-17 14:37:28
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More likely that DLM has intervened, and changed you from a 3dB target SNRM to a 12dB target.

That would account for the change in speed.

Why would DLM do that? Usually because it saw more errors, or more disconnections.

Your attenuation barely changed, so it is not likely that BT engineers lengthened your cable dramatically. They might, of course, have disturbed a joint that is causing (or caused) your error or disconnection issue.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 21-Apr-17 15:42:07
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Just spoken to CS and they checked the system and did find that there was a problem and have said that they need to reset something (don't know what) and that it will take a couple of hours to see if that will solve the issue.

I shall wait to see if the SN Margin and download speed go back to what it was before otherwise I shall have to contact them again.
Standard User ian007jen
(committed) Fri 21-Apr-17 19:50:11
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Correct me if i am wrong but....

If you want more speed sign up for FTTC you are currently
G.992.5

on ADSL(2+)
in Cabinet 2

You are not connected to a cabinet.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 21-Apr-17 20:32:55
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In reply to a post by ian007jen:
You are not connected to an/the FTTC cabinet.
wink smile

It may not be live yet of course.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 21-Apr-17 21:13:50
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I do not need more speed or FTTC for what I do and can afford. I just want PlusNet to correct whatever has gone wrong and set my SN Margin and my speed back to what it has been for ten years or more.
I did speak to CS and they said could see what the problem was and that it would be sorted out in the next 2 hours, this was @ 15.30 and as yet nothing has changed.
I will call them again on Monday if things have not changed by then.

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Standard User ian007jen
(committed) Fri 21-Apr-17 22:22:18
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Sounds like the openreach engineers may have inadvertently been causing errors etc.but there may be an underlying problem with your connection.

Plus net will/have/may reset the target SNR margin (back to 6 dB) see if your connection resyncs tomorrow; if it does not perform a reboot after 09:00 and before 18:00
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 21-Apr-17 23:17:21
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Thanks for reminding me to do a reboot which I will do tomorrow.
I will post the result here tomorrow.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 21-Apr-17 23:22:37
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In reply to a post by scopio:
I do not need more speed or FTTC for what I do and can afford. I just want PlusNet to correct whatever has gone wrong and set my SN Margin and my speed back to what it has been for ten years or more.


You may also just be suffering from the various connections in the street degrading. Mine did this when I was with BE and the engineer that came to my house found all sorts of connections in the chamber outside my front door that were "jelly crimped" about 25 to 30 years ago - and now starting to open up - causing crackling noises on the phone and major issues with the broadband. He fixed my line, but left the neighbours....

plusnet unlimited fibre 80/20 since 2 Jun 14 - Sync as of 9th Apr 17: 56,605/9,592 kbps with G.INP
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 27-Apr-17 00:59:21
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To day I had an answer from CS to my ticket stating "they have tested your line and have been unable to find any issues with it. The minimum estimate for your line is 16.5Mbps; this estimate is created based on the known length of the line, joints and materials used to create the line. The line is performing well and within the expected limits with a sync rate of 18.2Mbps."
My downstream has improved from 12.31 to 15.73Mbps and my SNM from 13.1 to 6.1dB my sync has gone from 14.335 up to 18266.
But my downstream has gone down from 1.06 to 0.35!
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/6249659219
So there must still be some issues.
Stats for today;
Uptime: 0 days, 0:10:09
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 440 / 18.262
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [GB/GB]: 1,06 / 1,99
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,4 / 0,0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 6,9 / 19,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 32,6 / 6,1
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote):
BDCM / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 50 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 6 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 119 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 47
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 27-Apr-17 01:19:45
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Your line has been reset to the Plusnet defaults for a new connection by the look of it. That has an upstream maximum of 440Kbps, which is what you have.

It is normally a single conversation with CS to have that uncapped and you should get over 1Mbps again. It isn't a line issue, just a restrictive setting ridiculous in this day and age. The vast bulk of their customers will never know, so PN save a fair bit of money over a year.

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Edited by RobertoS (Thu 27-Apr-17 01:20:54)

Standard User 4M2
(knowledge is power) Thu 27-Apr-17 01:41:06
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Upstream sync is now 440 due to a snr margin of 32.6, hence a reduced upload speed. Definitely still some issues!
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 27-Apr-17 09:34:22
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No. The SNRM is high fir the reason I gave. It is well known here and accepted by Plusnet that this happens. It was supposed to have been corrected a couple of years back, but we still see instances.

It is always 440Kbps.

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Standard User 4M2
(knowledge is power) Thu 27-Apr-17 13:25:34
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
No. The SNRM is high fir the reason I gave. It is well known here and accepted by Plusnet that this happens. It was supposed to have been corrected a couple of years back, but we still see instances.

It is always 440Kbps.


Thanks for reminding me about that.

Hopefully the OP's connection will hold with a downstream target SNRM of 6dB - probably the previous (post 30/11/14) downstream SNRM of 3dB and 20.527kbps sync is now unsustainable on the line.

Certainly since VDSL2 was enabled from my cabinet error rates have increased on my ADSL2+ connection possibly due to interference on the D Side - my ISP (xilo) confirms that such a thing is certainly possible.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 27-Apr-17 13:57:40
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Today I have asked CS to uncap the 440Kbps which he had to put an order to do so.
I shall see what happens after midnight.
There seems to still be some issues if this graph is anything to go by.
http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s524/scopio1/201...
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 27-Apr-17 15:49:26
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CS phoned back today @ 15.30 to inform me that they have now uncapped my upstream and my stats are now near but not what they were before February stats.
Today stats;
Uptime: 0 days, 0:33:10
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 888 / 18.258
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [GB/GB]: 1,48 / 1,99
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,3 / 0,0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 6,9 / 19,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 16,3 / 6,0
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote):
BDCM / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 59 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 7 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 131 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 142 / 748
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/6252650468
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 27-Apr-17 15:58:18
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Oh dear. That's the other upstream cap they have. Corresponding to the old-style 832Kbps on ADSL Premium or whatever it was called, on the ADSL Max "up to 8128" 20CN products. I'm sure I've seen some people get the full open profile.

I suggest you ask on the Community forums, and see if one of the reps there can do anything. They have more powers than first-line support.

I could be wrong though and it can't be fully uncapped frown.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 27-Apr-17 16:02:19
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I have send a PM to Adam Walker as he has offered to have a look at my issue.

Thanks for all the help, I will post whatever Adam Walker says.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 27-Apr-17 16:56:00
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888kb/s is the normal upstream speed limit when the upstream is interleaved
Standard User 4M2
(knowledge is power) Thu 27-Apr-17 16:57:56
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Oh dear. That's the other upstream cap they have. Corresponding to the old-style 832Kbps on ADSL Premium or whatever it was called, on the ADSL Max "up to 8128" 20CN products.


Yes that is correct - I have these upstream "uncapped" stats from an old PN ADSL Max Premium account that I had back in 2011:

DSL Type: G.992.1 annex A

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 832 / 8.064

Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [kB/kB]: 0,00 / 0,00

Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,0 / 19,5

Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 20,5 / 35,0

SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 9,0 / 12,0

Funny thing at the time was PN support wrongly thought that "uncapping" the upstream would affect the downstream sync - probably they got confused with Annex M. I didn't question that belief because they offered the "Premium" upgrade for free smile
Standard User Realalemadrid
(regular) Thu 27-Apr-17 19:09:52
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I think Oldjim is correct (Sorry Robertos you can't always get it right!) it's nothing to do with ADSL Max premium (832Kbps sync) the OP is on ADSL2+ and 888Kbps is the maximum sync speed when upstream is interleaved. Modem is showing FECs for both downstream and upstream.

Edited by Realalemadrid (Thu 27-Apr-17 19:18:45)

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 28-Apr-17 00:11:53
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On Plusnet Jim? Or on all WBC ADSL2+? Or on all ADSL2+ such as O2/Be, Sky, TalkTalk?

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Edited by RobertoS (Fri 28-Apr-17 00:12:34)

Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Fri 28-Apr-17 00:17:05
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The ISP has nothing to do with the sync between the user's router and the exchange so it's definitely every ISP using a service provided by BTw (I'm not sure about LLU ISPs who have their own exchange equipment).

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Standard User 4M2
(knowledge is power) Fri 28-Apr-17 01:28:02
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In reply to a post by jelv:
(I'm not sure about LLU ISPs who have their own exchange equipment).


My TTB SMPF stats:

Max: Upstream rate = 1218 Kbps, Downstream rate = 13920 Kbps
Path: 0, Upstream rate = 1022 Kbps, Downstream rate = 12131 Kbps
Mode: ADSL2+
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.3 9.1
Attn(dB): 37.5 22.6
D: 64 8 (interleave depth)
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Fri 28-Apr-17 08:12:57
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(I'm not sure about LLU ISPs who have their own exchange equipment)
100% is not the case for sky and talktalk smile
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 30-Apr-17 16:21:42
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As I said in my last comment I would update this post when I had a response from Adam to my PM in PlusNet Community but alas I have had no response. Now, today I again checked my router stats and guess what my SNM, sync and speeds have now reverted to what they were before all these issues started last February.
Today's stats; RX Noise 3.0dB RX Sync 20175Kbps
Uptime: 0 days, 2:23:23
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1.167 / 20.175
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [GB/GB]: 1,98 / 1,99
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,3 / 0,0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 6,9 / 19,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 9,0 / 3,0
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 68 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 8 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0 Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 158 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 9 / 18
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 6 / 62

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/6260137852
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...


What has happened from the time I noticed the decrease and reported it to CS and today for me it is a mystery.

Any further comments?
xdsl info expand=enabled
Physical Layer Statistics:

Modem state: up
Up time (Days hh:mm:ss): 0 days, 2:38:21
xDSL Standard: ITU-T G.992.5
xDSL Annex: Annex A
Channel Mode: Interleaved

Number of reset: 8

Chipset Vendor info (G.994.1): Local Remote
Country code: B500 B500
ID: BDCM IFTN
Specific: 0000 71C8

System Vendor info (showtime): Local Remote
Country code: 0F00 0000
ID: TMMB ----
Specific: 3C61 0000

Bearers generic info DS US
Payload rate [Kbps]: 20175 1167
Attenuation [dB]: 19.5 6.9
Margins [dB]: 3.1 9.1
Output power [dBm]: 0.0 12.3

Number of bearers: 1
Bearer 0 DS US
INP [DMT symbols]: 0.00 0.00
Delay [ms]: 0.09 0.24
Depth []: 1 0.00
R: 0 0

G.997.1 Statistics (Current):

Failures:
Line failures Near end
Loss of signal (LOS): 8
Loss of frame (LOF): 68
Loss of power (LPR): 0

Performance monitoring:
Line PM: Near end
Error second (ES): 159

Channel PM: Near end Far end
Bearer 0:
Code Violation (CV): 19 9
FEC: 0 0

ATM data path PM: Near end Far end
Bearer 0:
HEC violation count (HEC): 62 N/A

G.997.1 Statistics (last 15 minutes):

Failures:
Line failures Near end
Loss of signal (LOS): 0
Loss of frame (LOF): 0
Loss of power (LPR): 0

Performance monitoring:
Line PM: Near end
Error second (ES): 0

Channel PM: Near end Far end
Bearer 0:
Code Violation (CV): 19 9
FEC: 0 0

ATM data path PM: Near end Far end
Bearer 0:
HEC violation count (HEC): 62 N/A

G.997.1 Statistics (last 24 hours):

Failures:
Line failures Near end
Loss of signal (LOS): 1
Loss of frame (LOF): 9
Loss of power (LPR): 0

Performance monitoring:
Line PM: Near end
Error second (ES): 23

Channel PM: Near end Far end
Bearer 0:
Code Violation (CV): 19 9
FEC: 0 0

ATM data path PM: Near end Far end
Bearer 0:
HEC violation count (HEC): 62 N/A

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 30-Apr-17 17:48:18
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Thanks for coming back with that smile. I shall Bookmark/Favorite it.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 03-May-17 23:16:29
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What on earth is happening to my line?
After three days when the SNRM and sync returned to what it was last February today it is acting erratically again!
Stats;
Uptime: 0 days, 1:31:11
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 339 / 15.605
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [GB/GB]: 1,99 / 1,85
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 10,1 / 0,0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 7,0 / 19,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 15,2 / 8,5
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 250 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 38 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 2.090 / 27
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 1.419
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 67.195 generateTasks()

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 09-May-17 13:48:19
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Had a visit from an engineer yesterday he tested the line which he said was OK with no problems he had it reset to 6dB and capped at 440kbps which he said was preferred and changed the faceplate on the Master Socket with a newer version and to leave it for the 10 day training period.
Would appreciate your view on what he said about the line and the latest stats.

Uptime: 0 days, 20:39:04
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 440 / 18.258
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/GB]: 357,47 / 1,99
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,2 / 0,0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 7,0 / 19,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 31,5 / 6,7
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 207 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 26 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 4.489 / 5
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 327 / 433.728
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 8 / 1.431
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 19 / 80.163 generateTasks()
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 10-May-17 17:59:04
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1) The engineer should not be doing that, (I don't know how he can anyway, because unlike FTTC it isn't Openreach's baby), but he may be misinformed.

2) It's a ludicrous suggestion that BT Wholesale ADSL2+ cannot run with an upstream even as high as ADSL Max (448kbps) or Max Premium (832Kbps)!! That 440Kbps is "preferred"?

I suggest you get back to Adam at Plusnet on both points.

The line still screwing up suggests a genuine fault, which this engineer may or may not have fixed. But the proper upstream sync of around 1100Kbps is not part of it.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 10-May-17 21:19:31
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Thanks RobertoS.
I have to day send a PM to Gandalf another Staff member who has offered to look into my issue as Adam has not answered my PM as he had offered. Gandalf will look into my issue when he gets back to his office tomorrow.
I have pointed out to him what you have said above.

This are the stats today Wed 21 May @ 21.17.
Uptime: 2 days, 4:12:12
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 440 / 18.258
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/GB]: 510,89 / 1,99
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,2 / 0,0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 7,0 / 19,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 31,2 / 6,7
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 207 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 26 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 4.514 / 5
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 327 / 472.503
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 8 / 1.513
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 19 / 82.774 generateTasks()
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 11-May-17 09:25:06
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1) The engineer should not be doing that, (I don't know how he can anyway, because unlike FTTC it isn't Openreach's baby), but he may be misinformed.
There's an internal unit you call, staffed by OR but have access to Btw stuff, so can hard pin profiles.
2) It's a ludicrous suggestion that BT Wholesale ADSL2+ cannot run with an upstream even as high as ADSL Max (448kbps) or Max Premium (832Kbps)!! That 440Kbps is "preferred"?
Additional training required I suspect.

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 11-May-17 10:19:23
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Re that internal unit, that's very interesting. No doubt on paper instigated by BTW with even perhaps a nominal charge by Openreach for providing this extra service. Which I'm sure would be available to Sky, TalkTalk, Vodafone and Zen should they request it smile.

The "further training required', yes indeed. What is extremely interesting however is that Plusnet used to default to this setting then stopped after customer complaints. They seem from a couple of recent threads to have reintroduced it. I wonder if EE also have it?

I suspect there is something in BTW capacity planning that yields more financial benefit than we lay people would expect. We tend to think purely in terms of the downstream. I wonder if the increasing emphasis on cloud computing and domestic cloud storage and backup has screwed the previous algorithms.

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