No, not at all - and I wasn't meaning you, Rog. But I'm not going to make it into an attack on individuals by highlighting specific posts. I would just like to see some of the "mock innocent" posts dealt with in the same way as the more overtly offensive ones. There's no reason baiting of other posters should be tolerated, just because it's subtle and cleverly done.

T.

Well, I suppose I am a bit late to the party,, but from where I sit, I can do no more than describe the banning of pr100 as misguided. It seems to me that the site owners are all too aware that the problems of this forum run much deeper than pr100's contribution. The only good I can see coming from this is that the issues are likely to continue, which might prove something useful..

In respect of the visit to Plusnet Towers, I don't think that TBB can continue to sponsor [in the loosest sense] this event. It is also a poor start for the plan to have some sections of the site commercially sponsored.

I think Paul2002 got it right in suggesting that the forum itself is taken off line. That would be more fairly directed at the source of the problem. Or splitting it into support and policy sections.

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I'm thinking of moving this thread to TTTS.

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but its working perfectly as a flypaper thread, all the usual suspects are in this one and other threads continue happily. I was admiring your tactics in bogging them all down in a thread of attrition.

" If plusnet are training their CS to lie to retain customers then we will see more evidence of this in the coming months/weeks, hopefully on this board, and if it was just a mistake on the part of the two CS's then we won't hear anymore of it. "

That statement is a bit like saying that two guys hanging around the graden of the house were not there to break in because the police were watching them and they knew about it. If they were going to break in they would have done it by now. Sorry, it may have been a conspiracy that was not right, but seeing as how they were being closely monitired they were not likely to repeat the behaviour. May just have been mistakes, but if they were forcing their CS teams to to behave in this way and tell lies they aint the only one doing it at this time. So it is not unknown, but we shall never really know, did Pr highlight it and it got stamped on or was it a mistake?

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I can understand that, I won't use a few companies that I have been let down by, but why keep coming back? are you coming back to help plusnet improve by comparing them to the service you are now on? are just hanging round to help people in general or are you just coming to score points? I have only read your posts in this thread, I don't go back over peoples posting history so I don't know why you come here "

If you look back you will find that my posts here have dwindled recently, until this thread. I do believe that PN may have turned some corners and so stiring them up, warning people, keeping some issues to the fore that PN wanted to sweep away have been important things to achieve but the need was apparantly decreasing. But this irrational act by the management here causes me great concern, they have acted in a biased and vindictive way that has not and will not help these boards, PN or PN customers IMO. Sadly PR is not allowed to defend himself something he offered to do for others many times, and I have seen the unwanted challenges etc that he has made to Pn and have felt that this unwarranted, IMO, action should not go unchallenged.

"me wonders what you're doing."

Saying that he has majored on these issues rarely been involved in personal tit for tats and gets banned.

"apart, crucially from the fact which several do not seem to understand or accept that PR has not been excluded for having an anti-pn stance."

Well I think the jury is still out on that one for me.

Problem is that these comments are left open to interpretation.

I would hope you would close it Seb, it has become the oh so familiar Plusnet Thread, going around in ever decreasing circles, usual point scoring from the same few.

Simon clearly stated that he would leave this place once BT became involved, he didn't, perhaps it would have been wiser for him to quit at that point.

What on earth does a casual Plusnet Customer seeking help from the forum think of all of this never ending waffle from the usual suspects?...I dread to think.


Time to move on.

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Sorry, it may have been a conspiracy that was not right, but seeing as how they were being closely monitired they were not likely to repeat the behaviour

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Closely monitored by this board? this board relys on people to come here and post about their experience when migrating, without that this board has no ability to monitor at all(there are only about 100 active users on here, not sure how many are ex or current customers). The two poster that originally post about being told lies did a very good thing. Sorry PR100 didn't highlight it, the two posters did.

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I do believe that PN may have turned some corners and so stiring them up, warning people, keeping some issues to the fore that PN wanted to sweep away have been important things to achieve but the need was apparantly decreasing{/quote]
Spot on.

We have to disagree about how TBB acted, I don't think it was irrational, I thought it had been coming for a while and I have to say there are others on here that probably need the same treatment, not just on the -ve side but on the +ve side.

{quote]action should not go unchallenged{/quote] the only course of action you have is to vote with your feet? it's done whether you think its just or not, at the end of the day what can actually be done about it?

Paul

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Yes that happens, but some use it in a very skillful way to run a thread off track, then cry innocent when a mod points out their post wasn't acceptable, but the job is done by then. By the way I believe both sides of the coin do this

Sometimes I get the impression its not just individuals, its groups that are acting in that way, perhaps thats a conspiracy too far! I can't supply any evidence its just an impression so I may just be making a mountain out of a mole hill.