what has FTTC and FTTP got to do with USING your OWN Router.....

and I know A LOT more about FTTC and FTTP than you I work for BT openreach installing FTTP, and USED to install FTTC...

I say again thinking it alters ANYTHING shows how much YOU know about both....

do you THINK there is no such thing as a router with built in ont ?????

MILLIONS more PSU's for modems went pop than the actual modem and you really think openreach modems have 1980s capacitors in them

In reply to a post by pyarwood:

I know A LOT more about FTTC and FTTP than you I work for BT openreach installing FTTP, and USED to install FTTC...

Really, if you're Openreach you won't have an issue sharing the 3 letters of your OUC???

yes like I would share anything like that on the internet...

but tell us how you cannot use a plusnet supplied router on FTTP.....

<sigh>

In reply to a post by pyarwood:

what has FTTC and FTTP got to do with USING your OWN Router.....

and I know A LOT more about FTTC and FTTP than you I work for BT openreach installing FTTP, and USED to install FTTC...

I say again thinking it alters ANYTHING shows how much YOU know about both....

do you THINK there is no such thing as a router with built in ont ?????

You may install it, but it don't mean you know about it, like a sky bloke sticking a dish up and connecting it to a some boxes,, just because he can do that, don't mean he knows how it works.

A lot of things are just following the instructions these days.

I am, not saying you don't know more about it, just saying that installing something don't mean you know more than somone else.

In reply to a post by pyarwood:

yes like I would share anything like that on the internet...

but tell us how you cannot use a plusnet supplied router on FTTP.....

Looking at the pictures of the hub 2, it has a Wan, so unless plusnet disables that, which I doubt as I did not on the hub one, then it will be easy to use the router with FTTP. I expect the one they supply with FTTC and FTTP is the same router anyway.

It is only when provider lock their routers and only allow limited changes that we have problems

In reply to a post by pyarwood:

yes like I would share anything like that on the internet...

If you THINK revealing 3 letters of an OUC identifies you then I would question if you really work for Openreach. Hopefully everyone can come to their own conclusion from this.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

Looking at the pictures of the hub 2, it has a Wan, so unless plusnet disables that, which I doubt as I did not on the hub one, then it will be easy to use the router with FTTP. I expect the one they supply with FTTC and FTTP is the same router anyway.

Yes the Plusnet Hub 2 is the same identical box for both FTTC and FTTP.

So we have gone from one question to another issue of the hg612 and fighting - why?..

Yes it was a good modem, and yes all equipment "wear out" in the sense the caps get less efficient and in some cases fail. Both the eci and hg612 power supplies were known to fail.

I think the updates to the 612 happened around 2015-16(the dates don't actually matter) that means anything that was tweaked on vdsl2 beyond the last firmware update wasn't going to appear, or work on the 612.

The issue beyond the 612 was that there wasn't any other godlike modem around - they all just worked well.

ONTs fail too .........