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Standard User broadbandjockey
(member) Sun 06-Oct-19 13:13:29
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Getting Phone Line Re Routed


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About to rebuild a bungalow. At present the phone line is overhead, fed from an electricity board pole in the corner of the garden (this also provides the overhead electric supply, that the local electric company will be putting underground)

What are my options for Openreach to do the same, is it a fixed cost (within limits) or something they come out and quote for. At present there is no service on the line, nor will there be until we move in)
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 06-Oct-19 13:57:21
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Re: Getting Phone Line Re Routed


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https://www.openreach.com/network-services/altering-...

Call 0800 783 2023 option 1

Or use the form

Costs will depend on whether it stays on existing pole or whether you want it ducted underground

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Standard User trolleybus
(experienced) Sun 06-Oct-19 18:24:19
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Re: Getting Phone Line Re Routed


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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
https://www.openreach.com/network-services/altering-...

Call 0800 783 2023 option 1

Or use the form

Costs will depend on whether it stays on existing pole or whether you want it ducted underground


Very useful info for a project I am about to start. Thank you for posting.


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Standard User broadbandjockey
(member) Mon 07-Oct-19 09:18:01
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Re: Getting Phone Line Re Routed


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Yes, indeed. I've filled the form in, and sent it off, I'll report progress.....
Standard User broadbandjockey
(member) Mon 07-Oct-19 16:57:27
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298 quid (non refundable, and not off-settable against the job should I decide to go ahead)
I think the phone line will be staying overhead !
Standard User threelegs
(regular) Mon 07-Oct-19 19:49:44
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i would put a 25mm duct in alongside the power cable, for future FTTP use. you will have the trench open anyway. even if you decide to keep the copper line overhead
Standard User JonRennie
(knowledge is power) Mon 07-Oct-19 22:15:08
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Standard Telecom ducting is 54mm...getting a rope through a 25mm duct is not going to be easy especially if there's already a cable in there.

wink Comms is hard wink
Standard User broadbandjockey
(member) Tue 08-Oct-19 08:02:57
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I should have said the survey will cost 298 quid (non refundable)

I'm not willing to pay 300 quid, to be told the job will cost a 1000.

The gas board just have a flat fee of 967 quid to install a pipe from the road to the house, which is far more onerous work.

I'm still going to run some duct work myself, there's a Virgin Media point in the road outside, so I'll make myself future proof.

Do BT/VM have any rules about the minimum distance their ducts are from power cables ?
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(staff) Tue 08-Oct-19 09:11:10
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https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/fibre-for-...

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Standard User ConsumersFriend
(committed) Tue 08-Oct-19 13:01:40
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Might be worth going back to basics...check whose pole it is, if it uses a wayleave for the electric company, you may find that BT have just hitched a ride on it, in which case when the electric company no longer need/use the pole you may be able to have them remove it if it's in your ground....and then Openreach will have to re-route their cables in order to maintain service to you!!
Standard User broadbandjockey
(member) Tue 08-Oct-19 13:28:02
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It's an SSE (local electrical company) pole. It is one of several that carry the village feed along the road. Three other properties as well as our own are fed overhead from it. Our BT line, uses it as a 'jump' point, for their own row of poles the other side of the road.

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Standard User ConsumersFriend
(committed) Tue 08-Oct-19 13:35:19
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SSE will normally want to remove "their" pole so as to end ongoing liabilities - have you checked what they intend?, especially if you as the landowner no longer want it there!
Standard User broadbandjockey
(member) Tue 08-Oct-19 13:40:31
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No, you misunderstand, I'm only having our house being fed underground from the pole, not having the pole itself removed. If the pole is removed, the entire village feed will have to go underground, and all the other (20+ poles removed) and everyone refed accordingly. Even if 'our' pole was removed, the other three properties would need to have underground feeds too

Edited by broadbandjockey (Tue 08-Oct-19 13:41:29)

Standard User threelegs
(regular) Tue 08-Oct-19 16:56:45
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In reply to a post by JonRennie:
Standard Telecom ducting is 54mm...getting a rope through a 25mm duct is not going to be easy especially if there's already a cable in there.


I put 25mm ducting across the garden from pole to house for the FTTP connection. the OR engineer didnt care what size duct was in place. to get a rope through start with a small bit of cloth tied to fishing line and either suck it through with a vacum (good old henry!) or blow it with a compressor then tie the proper rope to the fishing line and pull it in. thats what I did and the OR bod couldnt believe all the hard work was done for him, he turned up before 0800 on new years day and i didnt hear him outside pulling the connectorised fibre through, one loop left at pole end to go to manifold and a MUCH bigger loop at the house end for me to feed through the house to the cupboard where the ONT now lives
Standard User dect
(committed) Tue 08-Oct-19 17:35:42
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In reply to a post by threelegs:
I put 25mm ducting across the garden from pole to house for the FTTP connection. the OR engineer didnt care what size duct was in place. to get a rope through start with a small bit of cloth tied to fishing line and either suck it through with a vacum (good old henry!) or blow it with a compressor then tie the proper rope to the fishing line and pull it in. thats what I did and the OR bod couldnt believe all the hard work was done for him, he turned up before 0800 on new years day and i didnt hear him outside pulling the connectorised fibre through, one loop left at pole end to go to manifold and a MUCH bigger loop at the house end for me to feed through the house to the cupboard where the ONT now lives
Sounds like you did the right thing for your FTTP installation.

The official Openreach requirement is 25mm for just fibre or 54mm for both copper and fibre.
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