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Standard User cozumel
(regular) Sat 23-May-09 18:25:37
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I am waiting for delivery of a new laptop for work. I am a social worker employed by a charity and therefore paid for the laptop myself. I will be visiting young people in their homes taking notes electronically direct to my laptop and will be also online at times. The information belonging to my clients may be of a personal, confidential nature and their welfare could be compromised if the data was lost or stolen.

The new laptop computer (a Dell) has McAfee Security Centre 30-day trial which I will be deleting straight away. I will install NOD32 Antivirus and am looking for appropiate firewall software. The laptop will have 64-bit Vista and Windows firewall. At home and at the office I will be protected by hardware firewall.

Is the Windows firewall okay for my puposes?
If not, then what firewall software would you recommend for the times when I am working away from the office.

Please remember that I am paying for this (as the charity for whom I work does not have the funds) and just want to have the data secure at a reasonable price. I also do not want something that is resource hungry slowing my laptop down.

Thanks in advance for your help.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 23-May-09 20:11:23
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You will no doubt receive suggestions concerning a firewall, but if you are holding personal and confidential information, you should use extra security such as disk encryption, in case the laptop is 'mislaid' or stolen.

I think Vista Ultimate and Enterprise include the option for disk encryption, but if you use another version, you should source an alternative.
I have no experience of the free offerings, but there are some out there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_disk_encr...
Standard User cozumel
(regular) Sat 23-May-09 20:35:29
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Thanks for the reply. Regarding encrytion, I just had to double-check on Microsoft site to be sure:

A key security feature of the Business, Enterprise, and Ultimate editions of Windows Vista, Encrypting File System is useful for user-level file and folder encryption. For example, if two users are sharing a computer, an administrator can use Encrypting File System to encrypt each user's data to make it unavailable to the other user. For network file and folder encryption, Windows Vista enhances Encrypting File System management by enabling administrators to store Encrypting File System keys on smart cards.

I have ordered the Business Edition so should be fine.

Any else have any thoughts on an a secure firewall?

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Edited by cozumel (Sat 23-May-09 20:36:04)


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Standard User XRaySpeX
(committed) Sat 23-May-09 21:32:09
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I will be visiting young people in their homes taking notes electronically direct to my laptop and will be also online at times.
NM the Firewall! How will you be connecting to the Net at your clients' homes?

Thro' their own local wireless network to their BB connection?
Won't you be at the mercy of the strength or otherwise of their wireless encryption method?
Couldn't you, therefore, be eavesdropped in their own homes?
Standard User cozumel
(regular) Sat 23-May-09 21:49:20
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None of them have internet connections. I will only be at their homes when we are doing one-to-one appointments and using MS word to record our sessions. I will be going online when I meet at them at cafes and other public places in London (including possibly British Rail Stations). In central London you can connect in most places....

Edit: I should add that all files of client confidential interviews would be removed off the laptop hard drive the same day or sometimes the next day.

Edit: And thinking about it...to reduce risk further I could always use client identifiers instead of their names to make it more anonymous. But I still want a decent firewall as a proper preventative measure against unauthorised intrusions.

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Edited by cozumel (Sat 23-May-09 22:00:36)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 23-May-09 21:58:45
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Why not use Linux?

Are you planning to use a Word template as a tick box? Why not just use a voice recorder and transcribe the results afterwards? More work for you but probably more secure.
Standard User cozumel
(regular) Sat 23-May-09 22:07:12
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Why not use Linux?

Are you planning to use a Word template as a tick box? Why not just use a voice recorder and transcribe the results afterwards? More work for you but probably more secure.
I use Linux at home (dual boot with Vista). The only problem with Linux on my work laptop is that OpenOffice or similar are not fully compatable with Microsoft Office programs and that slows me down with having to go through reformatting the text and table or stuff like that. I'd estimate that 90% transfers fine but the 10% would just frustrate me.

And the voice recorder would slow me down further. Working for a charity I have too many people to see in too little time. Hence the reason for the laptop. Increase my productivity and the quality of service my vulnerable clients can receive. I want to live up to their expectations as much as possible!!

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(committed) Sun 24-May-09 00:18:37
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Ummm, OK!

On the question of a firewall, why don't you get Norton Internet Security (AV/AntiSpyware/Firewall combined)? You can buy it for about the same as NOD32.

I've never heard of NOD, but it has a companion product Smart Security, similar functionality to NIS.

If you don't wanna pay for one, then ZoneAlarm Free Personal Firewall is as good as any other.

Windows Firewall is weak; it doesn't block outgoing rogue programs.
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(deleted) Sun 24-May-09 10:13:58
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I will install NOD32 Antivirus and am looking for appropiate firewall software.


Just install Eset Smart Security. Contains both an excellent virus checker and a firewall.
Standard User cozumel
(regular) Sun 24-May-09 21:18:25
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Thank you everyone for your feedback.

I don't want to go for a suite as from my experience they are 'bloatware', slowing a machine down and reducing productivity. Haven't used Norton Internet Security or similar for a few years because of this problem.

I have done a bit of research and will go with ESET NOD32 Antivirus and Outpost Firewall Pro 2009 which together should have a low resource footprint but highly effective protection. Outpost had very good results in testing from matousec.com passing 94% of the tests (click here for test results in pdf format). Feedback from users and admin/mods at Wilders Security Forums are also mostly positive for Outpost.

Thanks again

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Edited by cozumel (Sun 24-May-09 21:30:45)

Standard User cozumel
(member) Sun 24-May-09 21:23:02
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In reply to a post by zebedeee:
Just install Eset Smart Security. Contains both an excellent virus checker and a firewall.
ESET Smart Security got very poor firewall results in testing by matousec.com and only passed 4% of tests. These are the test results (opens a PDF file).

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Standard User cozumel
(member) Sun 24-May-09 21:27:44
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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
If you don't wanna pay for one, then ZoneAlarm Free Personal Firewall is as good as any other.
ZoneAlarm Free Personal Firewall only passed 11% of tests from masoutec.com. (click here for results in pdf format)

Thanks anyhow!!

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Standard User Pipexer
(knowledge is power) Sun 24-May-09 21:50:35
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I really wouldn't read too much into the matousec.com stuff, yes it does show a correctly working firewall but you may like to read some of the vendor responces which bring up some good points about relevancy of whether the firewall is secure.

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(committed) Sun 24-May-09 21:55:42
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ZoneAlarm Free Personal Firewall only passed 11% of tests from masoutec.com.
No wonder! This is a highly suspect and biased test.

ZoneAlarm Free is tested and compared against a whole range of integrated security suites, including its companion ZoneAlarm Pro which scored 72%, much higher.

Yet ZoneAlarm Free only purports to be a firewall while ZoneAlarm Pro (& the rest) are the whole caboodle.

Also, it appears that you knew the answer to your question before you asked it LOL!

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Standard User cozumel
(member) Sun 24-May-09 22:29:12
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Also, it appears that you knew the answer to your question before you asked it LOL!
I really did not know the answer when I posted the original question. It is only a decision I came to during the course of research today and after reading probably well over 100 posts concerning firewalls. And I understand on firewalls being part of an integrated package. As I want a small (resource) footprint, as I stated in the first post of this thread, it meant I could only consider a firewall program that offered high levels of protection as a stand-alone product, which is where ZoneAlarm (a fine product) fell short of my requirements.

The last two software firewalls I have used have been Comodo and ZoneAlarm (both free versions) and I was happy with both as they were part of 5 or 6 programs I installed as part of my package of protection. I haven't used software firewalls since about 2004 when I decided hardware firewalls satisfied my requirements for the home. I was expecting to return to either ZoneAlarm or Comodo for my laptop but only decided differently this evening after a good deal of (time-consuming) research.

Many thanks again for your time.

Edit: First paragraph added to for clarity

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Standard User cozumel
(member) Sun 24-May-09 22:31:43
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I really wouldn't read too much into the matousec.com stuff, yes it does show a correctly working firewall but you may like to read some of the vendor responces which bring up some good points about relevancy of whether the firewall is secure.
I do understand the context/validity of masoutec testing and that is why I spent a great deal of time cross-referencing with forum posts to check out end-user experience before coming to a decision.

Thanks

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(deleted) Tue 26-May-09 13:36:41
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In reply to a post by cozumel:
In reply to a post by zebedeee:
Just install Eset Smart Security. Contains both an excellent virus checker and a firewall.
ESET Smart Security got very poor firewall results in testing by matousec.com and only passed 4% of tests. These are the test results (opens a PDF file).



From bitter experience, I know that it's not a good idea to have separate AV and Firewall products, and since ESET NOD32 is the best AV product, then getting the complete Internet Security package is a "no brainer". Since matousec is a privately-owned company, I do not feel that the results can be trusted, and if you Google DIFINEX (the owners of matousec), then you'll find many that agree.

http://smokeys.wordpress.com/2009/05/03/matousecs-ne...

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 27-May-09 12:53:11
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Thank you everyone for your feedback.

I don't want to go for a suite as from my experience they are 'bloatware', slowing a machine down and reducing productivity. Haven't used Norton Internet Security or similar for a few years because of this problem.

I have done a bit of research and will go with ESET NOD32 Antivirus and Outpost Firewall Pro 2009 which together should have a low resource footprint but highly effective protection. Outpost had very good results in testing from matousec.com passing 94% of the tests (click here for test results in pdf format). Feedback from users and admin/mods at Wilders Security Forums are also mostly positive for Outpost.

Thanks again


You've made an excellent decision! Until recently i was using ESET Smart Security v4 and while its AV component has a legendary status, unfortunately its firewall component leaves a lot to be desired. I've now reverted to ESET antivirus only (v4) and just bought Outpost Firewall Pro 2009 for $59.99 for a LIFETIME licence (special offer from Agnitum)
Standard User TiMeTraVeLeR
(regular) Wed 27-May-09 19:30:02
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I will be going online when I meet at them at cafes and other public places in London (including possibly British Rail Stations). In central London you can connect in most places....

well u will need encryption while using hot spots such as Xerobank ,IronKey etc these will encrypt your surfing & e-mail as hot spots are notoriously bad for eves droppers.

Edited by TiMeTraVeLeR (Wed 27-May-09 19:31:04)

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