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Good idea re the two Sky+ boxes, they really are the best thing since sliced bread! I never thought I would say it, but I couldn't live without Sky+ now.

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I have recently bought a DVD Recorder which is great but the convenience of the Sky+ box makes it a must have.

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i ended up getting user/pass from router and using my own router(speedtouch 585 i think) and been plain sailing since.

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Unfortunately you could only get your user/password from the old routers,you cannot get it from the new ones, i guess someone will come along with a hack in time.
I believe the new routers are much more stable than the old ones.