Sky's Full 20Mb

Anyone in here getting the full 20Mb that sky offer, how close would you need to be to the exchange to get it?.

Fairly close less than 1km i would say, where as some ukonline customers would see upto 22mb below that distance, all down to target snrm and the way they manage things, with sky it's 1 size fits all 7-8 default margins downstream and upstream sync rates capped below what the network it able to support,and use of it's dlm and option of fast path

Edited by tommy45 (Tue 27-Sep-11 15:57:29)

Only reason i put this is i'm in a temp house right now and about 1.2km from the exchange, getting around 12Mb, but i'm moving soon and it says the exchange is only 343 metres away on the samknows site, would it be possible i could get the full 20Mb, and is there anything faster about?.

In reply to a post by tommy_boi:

Only reason i put this is i'm in a temp house right now and about 1.2km from the exchange, getting around 12Mb, but i'm moving soon and it says the exchange is only 343 meters away on the samknows site, would it be possible i could get the full 20Mb, and is there anything faster about?.

At that distance if the info is correct i would expect the full sync rate of any upto 24mb adsl isp, and something would be seriously amiss if that was not possible,
at that short distance from the exchange, if it was me i would make full use of it, and go for be pro or similar for the extra upload speed ,

SamKnows only gives a straight line distance, so real distance can be a lot different

e.g. major roads, rivers, railway lines being a big issue

Don't got by straight line distance or road distance it is the length of the line that matters.

I'm about 320 meters from the exchange but only get 13Mbps and my modem reports the line as being between 1.5km and 3km.

If FTTC is being enabled at your exchange it will be worth checking that even if the cost is prohibitive at first it would be good to know. Far too often cabinets close to the exchange are not FTTC enabled and therefore will limit you to ADSL2+ up-to ~20Mbps for the foreseeable future. For this reason it may work out better to live further away from an FTTC enabled exchange.

In reply to a post by 5km:

Don't got by straight line distance or road distance it is the length of the line that matters.

I'm about 320 meters from the exchange but only get 13Mbps and my modem reports the line as being between 1.5km and 3km.

I'm apparently 1009.8 metres according to Google maps; my attenuation is 24.5db and I can sync at 17.2mbps on BE. My PCP (cabinet) is 473 metres away, but I have no FTTC cabinet yet.

Line type (copper, aluminium or various mixes) and number of junctions and quality of these junctions also drastically affect line quality.

In reply to a post by tommy45:

In reply to a post by tommy_boi:

Only reason i put this is I'm in a temp house right now and about 1.2km from the exchange, getting around 12Mb, but i'm moving soon and it says the exchange is only 343 meters away on the samknows site, would it be possible i could get the full 20Mb, and is there anything faster about?.

At that distance if the info is correct i would expect the full sync rate of any upto 24mb adsl isp, and something would be seriously amiss if that was not possible,
at that short distance from the exchange, if it was me i would make full use of it, and go for be pro or similar for the extra upload speed ,

Iam well aware of how samknows estimates line length ie straight line distance (as the crow flies) or distance by road, both are not going to give a very accurate figure, but on face value a line of 343mtrs in length should easily be able to sync at the max adsl2+ can offer 24mbps downstream and 2.5-3mbps upstream,

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

SamKnows only gives a straight line distance, so real distance can be a lot different

e.g. major roads, rivers, railway lines being a big issue

the bit about railway lines, don't bt open reach just bury the cables deep underneath the lines in some type of re enforced ducting? cheaper than routing it the much longer way surely? we have railway lines that basically divide the area into 3 segments with only 3 road bridges local to me that could affect cable routing from my exchange, but i'm fairly sure the cables run under the tracks

Thankfully i have none of these between me and the exchange, just a couple of roads, and they are not major roads.

Cant get Be at my exchange, but hopefully i can get full 20Mb on Sky, thats if my line isn't routed all over the place, instead of straight to the exchange.

General preference I think is for BT to follow roads and as the railway line often pre-dates the phone network, longer routes are common.

If an electric line the interference can be horrendous from overhead or third rail contacts too

In reply to a post by tommy_boi:

Only reason i put this is i'm in a temp house right now and about 1.2km from the exchange, getting around 12Mb, but i'm moving soon and it says the exchange is only 343 metres away on the samknows site, would it be possible i could get the full 20Mb, and is there anything faster about?.

Sam knows can be a real issue at times its give you a straight distance from the xchange to your house, but the actual cable length could be anything, so in fact YOU could be about 5 miles from it.

I used to work for BT and the amount of time I heard engineers bitching that customers give them a hard time over this very fact.

One example New house built ( say in last 10 years) the cable routed to them goes from exchange to 3 different area before it reached you, so even tho you 500 meters away you could very well be 5 miles away in cable length. It cheaper to extend a cable than lay a new one ... a lot cheaper.

I think the house we are moving to is about 7 years old, the house i am in now, it said on samknows my line was 1.27km away straight line distance, and the cable was i think around 2km away the engineer said, i suppose its all about luck then, i could move to this house and be much much closer to the exchange than i am now, or i could be much much further away?.

Edited by deleted (Fri 30-Sep-11 21:00:17)

I get the full 20Mb speed as I live about 400m from the exchange and when I was with BT, I got the full 8Mb. So I must have good quality wires between here and there.

I would say i should get the full 20Mb when i move to my new place, as its only 343 metres from the exchange, but like people on here said, the line length could be 5 miles long, and knowing my luck, it probably will be.

I was getting the full 20mb, had my SNR tweaked down to 3dB, with Att: 25dB - Loop length comes in around 1500m

I get 17.5 meg and I about 1.3 to 1.6 km away

i live 688meters away and only get http://www.speedtest.net/result/1531105307.png

Edited by deleted (Wed 12-Oct-11 19:42:27)

Would think you would get much more than that, at the moment i live 1.27km away and get about 11Mb, but when i move soon i will be only about 350 metres away so i'm hoping for much more than that, but i guess it is pot luck on how long the line is, i am guessing you have a long line even though you are close to the exchange?.

all standard fitting from bt and standard cable to router but the exchange has alot problems