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Standard User Kr1s69
(knowledge is power) Sat 21-Apr-12 18:19:09
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Sky 80/20 Product Rumour


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Hi,

Just seen this on skyuser.co.uk:


Connection speeds of upto 80/20
£30 per month

I was hoping that sky would launch a faster fibre product before my exchange is enabled to compete with BT, however with BT at £26 and the rumour saying sky would be £30 I'm not convinced that i'll stay with Sky.

The £20 sky product at 2Mbps upload isn't significantly better than ADSL2+ and £30 is too expensive.

I understand with sky's unlimited policy they need to cover costs but it would be good to have something for those who don't download TB's each month.

The £7.50 for 18Mbps down 1Mbps up I get at present is looking like a better deal.

http://www.skyuser.co.uk/skyinfo/sky_broadband_unlim...

edit: Spelling

Kris

Sky Broadband Unlimited
Ashington (Northumberland) Exchange
Fibre due June 2012!

Edited by Kr1s69 (Sat 21-Apr-12 18:20:56)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 21-Apr-12 18:59:23
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All FTTC looks less attractive download speed wise if you can get above 10 Meg at present, those who jump at the chance at often those with sub 4 Meg speeds. The desire to pay more lessens for each Meg of extra speed someone has now.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 21-Apr-12 18:59:55
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
All FTTC looks less attractive download speed wise if you can get above 10 Meg at present, those who jump at the chance at often those with sub 4 Meg speeds. The desire to pay more lessens for each Meg of extra speed someone has now.


You should tell Openreach that, they appear to not consider it a factor.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 21-Apr-12 19:04:35
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If I was on 18Mbps for £7.50 I wouldn't even give fibre a second thought! That's great value.

The 80/20 product's rumoured price is completely uncompetitive against BT's offering. BT's 80/20 for £26 even damages the Sky £20 40/2 product's competitiveness.

A much stronger line up would be: £20=40/10, £25=80/20.
Standard User Kr1s69
(knowledge is power) Sat 21-Apr-12 19:59:52
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As has been noted, my current line is good, but i'd still consider a 40/10 product if it was priced right (ie £17.50-£20)

I feel the majority of customers are being asked to pay more to allow sky to keep their unlimited product which only benefits a few.

Kris

Sky Broadband Unlimited
Ashington (Northumberland) Exchange
Fibre due June 2012!
Standard User tomos
(committed) Sun 22-Apr-12 00:18:19
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my lines good too but sky seems to be doing an "elite" type service. i'll gladly pay 30 a month if i can get that package.

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1st ISP - Demon - Dialup
2nd ISP - Pipex 512K, then 1Mb
3rd ISP - PlusNet 2Mb, kicked off after being placed on the bad boy pipe
4th ISP - Zen 2Mb. no probs at all.
5th ISP - Bulldog 4Mb then 8Mb, now 18Mb
6th ISP - O2. 18-20MB
7th ISP - O2 access. 8meg limited
8th ISP - Sky. too soon to tell
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 22-Apr-12 17:48:35
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Well if you have to prove your speeds for adverts then what do people expect.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User epyon
(committed) Tue 24-Apr-12 16:13:55
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Interesting

Just ordered the 40/2 service

if thats smooth i'll gladly pay that price.

My Broadband Speed Test
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 26-Apr-12 10:10:54
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Hmm. I've got Retentions due to call me in a week or so to complete my sign up to FTTC, rather than switch to BT - I think I'll see if I can get the 80/20 service from her.. smile
Standard User Chrysalis
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 26-Apr-12 17:16:04
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In reply to a post by Kr1s69:
Hi,

Just seen this on skyuser.co.uk:


Connection speeds of upto 80/20
£30 per month

I was hoping that sky would launch a faster fibre product before my exchange is enabled to compete with BT, however with BT at £26 and the rumour saying sky would be £30 I'm not convinced that i'll stay with Sky.

The £20 sky product at 2Mbps upload isn't significantly better than ADSL2+ and £30 is too expensive.

I understand with sky's unlimited policy they need to cover costs but it would be good to have something for those who don't download TB's each month.

The £7.50 for 18Mbps down 1Mbps up I get at present is looking like a better deal.

http://www.skyuser.co.uk/skyinfo/sky_broadband_unlim...

edit: Spelling


bear in mind your adsl2+ sync speed is unusually high, its way above the typical.

whilst typical FTTC speeds will be way higher than adsl2+ probably at least 4x as high maybe even 5x as high.

also burst speed isnt free and the higher usage it allows and you can maybe see reasons why for the price difference.

In terms of the £26 vs £30 thats pretty much nothing of a difference.
Standard User Chrysalis
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 26-Apr-12 17:18:01
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In reply to a post by Kr1s69:
As has been noted, my current line is good, but i'd still consider a 40/10 product if it was priced right (ie £17.50-£20)

I feel the majority of customers are being asked to pay more to allow sky to keep their unlimited product which only benefits a few.


you basically asking sky to copy the rest of the market, as it stands they alone now, they the only isp who are even attempting to offer true unlimited unshaped FTTC. You are spoilt for choice yet the people who want unlimited and unshaped are not.
Standard User tommy45
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 26-Apr-12 17:29:58
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In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
In reply to a post by Kr1s69:
As has been noted, my current line is good, but i'd still consider a 40/10 product if it was priced right (ie £17.50-£20)

I feel the majority of customers are being asked to pay more to allow sky to keep their unlimited product which only benefits a few.


you basically asking sky to copy the rest of the market, as it stands they alone now, they the only isp who are even attempting to offer true unlimited unshaped FTTC. You are spoilt for choice yet the people who want unlimited and unshaped are not.

I think with some profile options made available, it would be worth £40 per month for a truly unlimited unthrottled FTTC 80/20 connection . no point in having big sync speeds if you are unable to use them when you want or need to,

Standard User Kr1s69
(knowledge is power) Thu 26-Apr-12 19:38:45
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Sky have gone back to the old BT method of charging more for a faster speed when in fact its data transit that costs.

The BT Openreach cost differential for a 40/2Mbps vs 40/10Mbps is pence per month and between 80/20Mbps is about £3. I won't use much more than I do now with 18/1 (ADSL2) and so whilst ill pay more for fibre there is a limit to how much more its worth paying.

With regard to the whole market being available to me and sky being the exception I disagree. Cheap fibre gets you about 20GB. 100GB packages cost more than BT/Sky/Talktalk and so aren't really worth considering.

Kris

Sky Broadband Unlimited
Ashington (Northumberland) Exchange
Fibre due June 2012!
Standard User broadband66
(experienced) Fri 27-Apr-12 09:12:46
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Just like VM cable!

Superfast but STM hit very quickly.

Was Eclipse Home Option 1 & VM 2Mb
Now O2 standard
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 30-Apr-12 09:23:41
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All FTTC looks less attractive download speed wise if you can get above 10 Meg at present, those who jump at the chance at often those with sub 4 Meg speeds. The desire to pay more lessens for each Meg of extra speed someone has now.


Agreed. I used to be on circa 7.5mb which was good enough for me. Then i moved a few hundred mtrs down the road and dropped to circa 3mb which is too slow.

Trying to get fibre installed by either Sky or BT is prooving to be a RPITA!!!!
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 07-May-12 23:06:26
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Iam on Sky LLU @

Modem Status Connected
DownStream Connection Speed 23996 kbps
UpStream Connection Speed 796 kbps

I'am going to get them to fix the upload higher think I would be silly going for fibre when Iam paying 12.50 per month.

Kenneth
Standard User epyon
(committed) Tue 08-May-12 10:17:31
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You may be connected directly to the exchange?

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