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Standard User NationsurfUK
(newbie) Fri 21-Jan-11 21:50:17
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Re: Talk Talk LLU - any good?


[re: adslmax] [link to this post]
 
Our oldest CPW line is coming up 9 months old and its rarly dropped out.
TalkTalk Business is better than TalkTalk for network quality.

Stats (Reset due to huge amount of errors) which strangely has no effect on the bandwidth quality. If Opal turn the DLM on, The speed drops to 10Mbps and latency up to 150+ms........so to us, FEC's are FINE (on opal)

Uptime: 0 days, 11:38:20
DSL Type: G.992.5 annex A
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1,020 / 17,550
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [kB/kB]: 0.00 / 0.00
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.5 / 0.0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 11.0 / 21.5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 13.0 / 9.0
Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 2,800

Edited by NationsurfUK (Fri 21-Jan-11 21:54:36)

Standard User knicol46
(newbie) Fri 21-Jan-11 22:49:41
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Re: Talk Talk LLU - any good?


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if Talk Talk were completely free I would not entertain them.

join if u want to
Standard User adslmax
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 22-Jan-11 02:16:13
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Re: Talk Talk LLU - any good?


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And TalkTalk had FUP policy of no more than 100GB per month if went over 100GB, your line will be throttling down to 128k for rest of the month.


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Standard User baby_frogmella
(member) Sat 22-Jan-11 07:26:33
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Re: Talk Talk LLU - any good?


[re: adslmax] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by adslmax:
And TalkTalk had FUP policy of no more than 100GB per month if went over 100GB, your line will be throttling down to 128k for rest of the month.


And long may it continue! Why should the rest of us who don't download much suffer if bandwidth rapists spank their line?

OP, in the 4-5 months i've been with talktalk plus LLU, i've NEVER EVER suffered slowdowns...i get line speed (16meg+) 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week. Everytime Tom, Dick, and Harry knows full well that if talktalk had no throttling in place for P2P and no fair usage limits (imho 100gb is fair) people would experience slowdowns at peak times. Long may Talktalk's throttling continue!
PS
Yes i know their telephone support sucks, but their web support is pretty good.

TalkTalk Plus LLU ADSL2+ connected @ 16639 / 1019 kbps
Attenuation 27db down / 9db up
Noise Margin 3.3 db down / 12.8db up
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Standard User Jack_Hackett
(knowledge is power) Sat 22-Jan-11 10:24:35
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Re: Talk Talk LLU - any good?


[re: adslmax] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by adslmax:
In reply to a post by NationsurfUK:
We've been using a Opal based LLU for sometime now and its been ok. We've had solid 17.5Mbps at around 21.5db looploss @ 9db SNR. It's always line speed and for the price, its quite remarkable.

Their support and billing are the only bad factor.


You only just join in, give it a week then it will be going downhills in speed and lots of disconnections. You wait and see. Talktalk are no good.


I was told this when i first joined TT, i posted a speed test which was more than double what i was getting from IDNet and the doom and gloom merchants that hang around this forum told me it wouldn't last and after the first month (trial period) it would go belly up and i would be stuck in a 18 month contract and regret I ever signed up, well 12+ months later my speeds are still great and i dont regret it one bit.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1122483972.png
Standard User woweebert
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 22-Jan-11 11:42:42
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Re: Talk Talk LLU - any good?


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And the doom and gloom merchants are still here peddling the same old warn out lines , the names may change but one thing is a constant .

Hardly any of them have ever been TalkTalk customers . So they don't know what the services is like and what they don't know they make up

Vivaciti MurphX LLU
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 22-Jan-11 12:05:54
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Re: Talk Talk LLU - any good?


[re: adslmax] [link to this post]
 
Any proof that this exists?

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 22-Jan-11 12:09:46
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Re: Talk Talk LLU - any good?


[re: woweebert] [link to this post]
 
Generally if you accept that phone support is a last resort then they are fine.

For those whose blood pressure rises if latency has the odd spike then not the ISP for them, but for people that are happy if it simply works and provides reasonable speeds for the majority of the time then its fine.

A lot of the bad press has been over sales techniques and the debacle with integrating Tiscali. Tiscali already had lots of customers who had been with a multitude of ISP's and unravelling that web was never going to be easy.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 22-Jan-11 12:11:56
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Re: Talk Talk LLU - any good?


[re: adslmax] [link to this post]
 
Guess what my mum would have agreed with you on that, visit at Christmas and see that issue appears to be wireless network congestion, so a bit of fiddling around with wireless channels and much better now.

Now she is with AOL, but its on the Opal/CPW LLU network.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User Deputy_Dog
(learned) Sat 22-Jan-11 13:23:16
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[re: baby_frogmella] [link to this post]
 
TalkTalk don't throttle to protect your line speeds but to keep their cost down. If they were concerned about your service they'd have better customer support. How can P2P downloading effect speeds any more than High Def YouTube or video streaming, porn, game downloads and updates etc etc?
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