In reply to a post by Deputy_Dog:

How can P2P downloading effect speeds any more than High Def YouTube or video streaming, porn, game downloads and updates etc etc?

Because p2p networks build a virtual network across ISPs. When you join a p2p network, it's not just you using your bandwidth to download, it's everyone using your bandwidth.

There is always trouble when companies become 1, I remember only to well with Virgin and trouble i had with them due to the commimg together of other cable operators, Im sure no company goes out to poor. However If you want to compare poor services try Bt Broadband help by phone !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Also My exchange has just been unbundled and Talk Talk is tempting, once my 18mnth contract with BT comes to a end.

In reply to a post by Deputy_Dog:

TalkTalk don't throttle to protect your line speeds but to keep their cost down. If they were concerned about your service they'd have better customer support. How can P2P downloading effect speeds any more than High Def YouTube or video streaming, porn, game downloads and updates etc etc?

Although Batboy has already corrected you I would add one of the reasons i joined TT was because of their P2P throttling, I wanted constant high speeds and low gaming pings and was not bothered about P2P, my previous ISP were swamped with the download the whole internet brigade which lead to capacity issues bad latency and a lot of unhappy customers, it took up to 3 months to get more capacity from BT every time this happened so gamers were stuck with lousy connections for weeks, I for one am glad TT throttle P2P.

TT have never made any secret of their P2P throttling, although it's not as bad as people make out and when you do see people complaining on the forum it's usually because they haven't set up their torrent client properly or are downloading poorly seeded torrents.

There are also other factors to take into consideration such as what else you're doing at the time and how full the exchange is. The more people trying to share the bandwidth the worse the throttling effect will be.

I'm lucky enough to be connected to and exchange with only 11,000 households, 4 LLU's and 21CN. Using Bittorrent, limiting the upload to 10% of the download and a well seeded torrent, I can get 1MB's anytime of the day and up to 1.6MB/s at quiet times on a 16Meg sync. I wouldn't have said that was too bad.

Any proof of this as it's not what it says in their FUP, either they can move you to a higher package or suspend/terminate your service.

Talk Talk’s policy towards Fair Usage is that Customers should be able to use the Service in an appropriate manner to meet their needs. A very small number of Customers use an excessive amount of the network bandwidth at peak times, to the extent that it can impair the performance of others. We therefore have a fair usage policy, which is designed to ensure your Service is fast and reliable 24 hours a day. This only involves monitoring the amount Customers download and managing non-time critical traffic on our network, such as Bittorrent or other Peer-to-Peer sharing applications. If Customers usage is continually either excessive, unfair, inappropriate, affects other users enjoyment of our broadband Service, or is not consistent with the usage we would typically expect on the Customers current package, we reserve the right to upgrade customers to a package more suited for their usage or, in extreme cases, suspend or terminate their ability to access Talk Talk broadband. We also manage the use of file sharing applications as these services often involve huge files being uploaded and downloaded, which can cause network problems and for Customers Internet Service to be slower than normal. Currently, TalkTalk Customers have no restrictions on Bittorrent or other file sharing activity between midnight and 3pm. At peak times, however some TalkTalk Customers can still use those services but they may find Bittorrent or file sharing is a little slower as we limit the amount of this traffic to ensure we can maintain a high quality Internet service for all our Customers. However, all TalkTalk Customers have no restrictions on time-critical web traffic such as surfing, gaming, streaming content from applications like BBC iPlayer or using VOIP packages like Skype at any time.