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Standard User keithwjones
(committed) Thu 13-Aug-15 10:44:24
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Fraud threat to millions of TalkTalk customers


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This also happened in Somerset last week:

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/feb/27/threat-...

Keith
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 13-Aug-15 10:47:36
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Re: Fraud threat to millions of TalkTalk customers


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That's old news now.

Oliver.
Standard User keithwjones
(committed) Thu 13-Aug-15 10:56:53
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Re: Fraud threat to millions of TalkTalk customers


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I accept that the loss of the data is an old story.

But last week a 75 year old lost £1,600. Do you think that TT or Lloyds TSB are going to give the money back?

Keith


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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 13-Aug-15 11:15:38
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Re: Fraud threat to millions of TalkTalk customers


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In reply to a post by keithwjones:
But last week a 75 year old lost £1,600. Do you think that TT or Lloyds TSB are going to give the money back?

Probably not, bank details were not stolen in the leak, so it's not really much different from random calls saying "Hello we are Microsoft, your PC is doomed and you need to pay us £299 to fix it".

Oliver.
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 13-Aug-15 11:31:55
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Re: Fraud threat to millions of TalkTalk customers


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In reply to a post by keithwjones:
But last week a 75 year old lost £1,600. Do you think that TT or Lloyds TSB are going to give the money back?

Having said that, banks can and do reverse charges in cases of obvious fraud. So they should definitely contact their bank ASAP.

Oliver.
Standard User bobble_bob
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 13-Aug-15 13:25:05
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Even without the TT breach, these calls can and do happen all the time. Companies sell your phone number on all the time
Standard User Mike_Williams
(committed) Fri 14-Aug-15 17:19:08
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Re: Fraud threat to millions of TalkTalk customers


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One of my relatives nearly lost £5000 a couple of months back.

See http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t...

Regards
Mike Williams

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Standard User keithwjones
(committed) Fri 14-Aug-15 17:48:33
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Re: Fraud threat to millions of TalkTalk customers


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Thanks Mike, that explains how they can do it.

Bottom line is that TT had a lot of data taken by one of their contractors last December. So the scammer already has a load of info.

Point of post is to make others aware that it is still happening..

Keith
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 14-Aug-15 19:20:03
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In reply to a post by keithwjones:
Bottom line is that TT had a lot of data taken by one of their contractors last December. So the scammer already has a load of info.

Most scammers have quite a lot of information, the "Microsoft" scammers knew my details when they rang me. I played along with their scam in a virtual machine and I hung up when they asked me to load Paypal in a browser.

I then left the house, and when I came back I saw that they had tried to ring me literally dozens of times.

In the case of TalkTalk I believe the only extra piece of information gained was the account numbers. But then, I've never had a company verify their identity by reading back my account number.

Oliver.
Standard User keithwjones
(committed) Mon 17-Aug-15 10:25:50
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Re: Fraud threat to millions of TalkTalk customers


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I've just stopped another this morning in North Somerset.

Beware they are ringing people now.

If you hear the word Teamviewer - you will know you have a problem. They will work on people for over 2 hours.
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 17-Aug-15 10:50:32
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Beware they are ringing people now.

They never stopped. There are teams in India who have been doing this every day for years to to all English speaking countries.

Here's an excellent youtube video of someone recording a video of a virtual machine showing how they work the scam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjKjyMKj3n4

Oliver.
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Tue 18-Aug-15 09:48:18
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great entertainment thanks.

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Standard User bobble_bob
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 18-Aug-15 13:35:22
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Id love to get a call from (fake) Microsoft so i could play along with them for a laugh
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Tue 18-Aug-15 15:09:31
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read various parts of the guy's blog he knows his stuff.

Finally also someone who blogged about how stupid it is to block pasting in password fields.

http://www.troyhunt.com/2015/07/its-not-about-suppor...

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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 18-Aug-15 15:20:54
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Interesting. The login page seems to allow pasting so perhaps the twitter pressure worked?

https://www.britishgas.co.uk/Login/Login-Verify/

Oliver.
Standard User bernado
(member) Mon 24-Aug-15 15:19:48
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In reply to a post by bobble_bob:
Id love to get a call from (fake) Microsoft so i could play along with them for a laugh


I got bored with being wound up by such calls at home and now have fun with them. My latest wheeze is to drop in animal impressions into the conversation, beginning with a playful bark building to a crescendo with out of control farm yard animals. It's hard to keep a straight face when mooing down the phone to some unknown overseas call center operative, I probably need to get out more!
Standard User Mike_Williams
(committed) Tue 25-Aug-15 10:35:51
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In reply to a post by bobble_bob:
Id love to get a call from (fake) Microsoft so i could play along with them for a laugh
Best fun I had was when the call center guy was as follows :-

CC: Are you at your computer?
ME: Yes

Repeat
{
CC: Can you press Windows flag key and R at the same time?
Me: Yes

CC: What do you see on your monitor?
Me: Nothing.

} Until CC: Is your computer turned on?

Me: No, get lost you scammer.

The repeat section went on for about 10 minutes with pauses at various time where I could hear the CC person asking other people what to do.

He He smile

Regards
Mike Williams

Info :-
Line: Length 250 metres
Modem router: Netgear D6400 + LinkSys wg54g [dd-wrt]
IP Profile = Down 19418 kbps Up 1019 kbps

2012: EE WBC 20Mbps Down: 22010 kbps Up: 1019 kbps
2003: Demon ADSLMax 8Mbps Down: 8128 kbps Up: 448 kbps
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