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Standard User keith969
(member) Sat 14-Nov-15 14:23:58
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Re: Potential for a takeover of TalkTalk "has to be high"


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
I agree. It's getting pretty boring.
Standard User Skilty
(member) Sat 14-Nov-15 23:04:01
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Re: Potential for a takeover of TalkTalk "has to be high"


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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
To be honest I am edging closer to labelling this as trolling


It's why I didn't bother replying. It's yesterday's news and I am tired of the conspiracy theories.

Worked in the city for the last 25 years for investment banks anyway!

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Standard User AdrianPH
(regular) Sun 15-Nov-15 09:30:21
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Re: Potential for a takeover of TalkTalk "has to be high"


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I am minded of another program from 1966 that you may be better revisiting ......

Napoleon XIV


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Standard User broadband66
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 15-Nov-15 11:09:25
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Re: Potential for a takeover of TalkTalk "has to be high"


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
Why? The poster keeps posting information that I'm sure none of us care about as it is copies of newspaper reports it is all just supposition.

"Your interest in TalkTalk has gone into obsession. What's going on with you? "

The above is by someone else. We're finding it a bit tedious.

Was Eclipse Home Option 1, VM 2Mb & O2 Standard
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Edited by broadband66 (Sun 15-Nov-15 11:11:32)

Standard User baby_frogmella
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 15-Nov-15 12:45:45
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Re: Potential for a takeover of TalkTalk "has to be high"


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I think Mr S was referring to edwincluck as a troll, not you (despite him replying to your post).

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Standard User edwincluck
(member) Sun 15-Nov-15 18:19:31
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Re: Potential for a takeover of TalkTalk "has to be high"


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The Daily Telegraph yesterday (Sat 14 Nov) finally takes note of the burgeoning debt pile at TalkTalk. Debt which has risen a further £32m since last week. With TalkTalk funding its unexpectedly generous interim dividend by borrowing even more.

That borrowing, now totalling £631m, is likely the weak point which could determine the future for TalkTalk. Determining whether it will recover and go forward as an independent company, or perhaps be absorbed for pennies on the pound in a hostile takeover by an industry rival. From The Telegraph:

TalkTalk’s debt pile now stands at £631m, a level that prompted unanswered questions from analysts over the covenants on its borrowings. The company said it expects the total to come down by the end of the year; most in the City disagreed.

We don't know the terms of issuance of its £109m of corporate bonds, nor its £560m rolling credit facility, nor its £100m overdraft. We don't even know the identities of those creditors.

It's possibly that a group of creditors has decided to turn the thumbscrews on Dunstone, Ross and others. To ease them out of their equity stakes in the company. This hacking brouhaha being simply the leverage to do that.

Interestingly, we also learn that earlier this year, Dunstone was receptive to a buyout at 400p a share, but such a buyer was not forthcoming. This from an anonymous (maybe fictitious) "senior telecoms industry rival":
Amid the rapid consolidation of the telecoms industry this year, the shares climbed beyond 400p amid rumours it could be snapped up.

A senior telecoms industry rival said: “Charles [Dunstone] was saying he wanted a strategic buyer at a time when strategic buyers are paying premiums. But what you would be buying with TalkTalk is basically a load of customers that are more prone to churning and not much else.

Crude, bearish and unsubstantiated talk intended only to damage TalkTalk further. You normally do that for one reason; to acquire an asset for much less than it is worth. Like Arfur Daley, the used car dealer, this is the corporate equivalent of tyre-kicking and much sucking through teeth. A smear to drive down the acquisition cost to a firesale price.

What's insightful in the latest round of damning news reports on TalkTalk is the general tone in which they are written. Almost spelling out impending doom. Going through the history of the company from 2006 conception, demerger from Carphone Warehouse, and lately the hacking crisis. And, ultimately, the end... News reports which feel like the obituaries editor penned them! The fate of the company sealed already?

A glimmer of light for the beleaguered company coming from John "Fingers" Fingleton, the former head of the Office of Fair Trading. Fingleton is now a paid advisor to TalkTalk. His voice adding weight to industry pleas for the liberation of Openreach from BT clutches. Calling for a major redefining of the sector. A move which could hugely stimulate competition; securing the future of TalkTalk and others:
John Fingleton, who led the Office of Fair Trading between 2005 and 2012, said that fixed-line communications constituted one of Britain’s “worst bottlenecks”.

“A really easy solution for everybody would be what happened in New Zealand — for BT to wake up and work out that it’s in everyone’s best interests for it to [separate its fixed-line network] voluntarily,” he told a conference, sponsored by one of BT’s main rivals, Sky.

BT should voluntarily spin off its fixed-line telephone and broadband network Openreach in order to avoid a protracted regulatory battle, the former head of Britain’s competition regulator has said.


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Standard User broadband66
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 16-Nov-15 15:12:22
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All pales in to insignificance after the week end but what you posted AGAIN is just a report written by a hack at a newspaper. It may or may not happen!

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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 16-Nov-15 15:30:26
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Re: Potential for a takeover of TalkTalk "has to be high"


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In reply to a post by broadband66:
All pales in to insignificance after the week end but what you posted AGAIN is just a report written by a hack at a newspaper.

Unless I'm mistaken I think he writes the posts himself in the style of a newspaper article.

Oliver.
Standard User broadband66
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 17-Nov-15 17:45:00
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Ah, that explains it!

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Standard User AdrianPH
(regular) Tue 17-Nov-15 18:25:28
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Re: Potential for a takeover of TalkTalk "has to be high"


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Crude, bearish and unsubstantiated talk intended only to damage TalkTalk further .........


Exactly, so why keep writing these boring missives attacking TalkTalk?



I have an ex brother in law who carries on like this, he talks endlessly , every waking hour.

He was a site manager for a building company, every job overran by weeks because he talked incessant rubbish all day and did no work, people fell asleep waiting for the droning noise to stop.

It's great if you want to clear a space at the local bar, he walks in the door and all the locals grab their coats and run down the road to the next pub.

You could buy a goldfish or a budgie to occupy your time.
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