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Standard User bobble_bob
(knowledge is power) Fri 06-Jan-17 12:15:41
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Re: TalkTalk FTTC Speeds


[re: Skilty] [link to this post]
 
Although the symptoms suggest congestion, doesnt explain why he is getting this in the early hours of then morning
Standard User 23Prince
(experienced) Fri 06-Jan-17 12:31:55
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When I had it on Infinity I got it 24/7. I know this is TT network so that could have been a stupid comment I just made.
Standard User baby_frogmella
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 06-Jan-17 12:39:09
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Re: TalkTalk FTTC Speeds


[re: jaydub] [link to this post]
 
A clear indicator of exchange or network congestion is packet loss on an idle connection, even if its just a few % loss. Might be worth setting up a TBB BQM and also a monitor at f8lure for confirmation. Obviously if you're on a dynamic IP then avoid rebooting your modem/router.

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Standard User jaydub
(experienced) Fri 06-Jan-17 15:20:55
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Re: TalkTalk FTTC Speeds


[re: baby_frogmella] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:
A clear indicator of exchange or network congestion is packet loss on an idle connection, even if its just a few % loss. Might be worth setting up a TBB BQM and also a monitor at f8lure for confirmation. Obviously if you're on a dynamic IP then avoid rebooting your modem/router.

TBB BQN Graph here

Not much sign of packet loss there. The router stats are only showing a negligible amount of errors and I think these are only generated maxing out the connection performing speed tests.

Just in the process of setting up a f8lure link.
Standard User jaydub
(experienced) Sat 07-Jan-17 11:06:54
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Re: TalkTalk FTTC Speeds


[re: jaydub] [link to this post]
 
F8lure graph here.
http://f8luresig.mouselike.org/sig.png?/57764.png

The AAISP version only kicked in at 1am this morning:
https://f8lure.mouselike.org/proxyfirebrick.asp?ID=5...

However the TBB monitor pings have been much more spikey since 11pm yesterday evening.
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/20976258cdf...
This is something I haven't seen before. The before 11pm performance is typical.

Is this a side effect of running the F8lure monitor alongside the TBB one?

For reference the router errors are showing:

Link Uptime: 8 days: 10 hours: 17 minutes

VDSL Counters

Downstream Upstream
Since Link time = 17 min 57 sec (spot the ZyXel display bug!!)
FEC: 0 896
CRC: 16 261
ES: 15 221
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0

Any thoughts appreciated.
Standard User baby_frogmella
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 07-Jan-17 11:56:09
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[re: jaydub] [link to this post]
 
Having the TBB and f8lure monitors running simultaneously shouldn't skew each others results.

Wrt yellow spikes on TBB monitor, it seems they aren't reflected on the f8lure monitor? If the TBB monitor is incorrect then by the same token the TBB speedtester could also be giving you incorrect single thread speedtest results. Hence why i recommended f8lure to get an independent check on your TBB BQM, but it appears one monitor is telling you porkies...I would leave both BQMs running for a week or so and then do a comparison. Ideally you shouldn't have any spikes when your connection is idle.

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Standard User 23Prince
(experienced) Sat 07-Jan-17 12:58:27
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[re: jaydub] [link to this post]
 
AAISP do a monitor as well? Is this for a new connection, their IPsec service or something else?
Standard User jaydub
(experienced) Sat 07-Jan-17 13:13:52
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In reply to a post by 23Prince:
AAISP do a monitor as well? Is this for a new connection, their IPsec service or something else

The F8lure service has their native monitor plus a second monitor hosted at AAISP.
f8lure hs been running since mid-2007 after a similar service called l8nc closed down leaving people stuck. Since we launched many similar services have also cropped up such as pingdom and ThinkBroadband's ping monitoring service. I hope we are better than the other services as we support dynamic IP addresses (dyndns, no-ip etc.), IPv6 and e-mail notifications of connection failure.
In 2013 AAISP kindly setup a FireBrick as a second opinion graph from within their network!
Standard User 23Prince
(experienced) Sat 07-Jan-17 14:58:33
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[re: jaydub] [link to this post]
 
Ah right - thank you
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 07-Jan-17 15:30:42
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[re: baby_frogmella] [link to this post]
 
On ping a lot depends on where you are pinging to/from.

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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