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Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 13-Jan-17 15:04:23
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Re: TalkTalk FTTC Speeds


[re: jaydub] [link to this post]
 
Also raised with Pulse8 here.

The drop in single thread speeds isn't especially bothersome, though it is very noticeable on tests.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

More troubling is how it makes online gaming feel. I'm bad enough at the games without having a bunch of jitter added. Feels like a very treacly experience, and gaming is not the place for such things.

My Broadband Ping

Edited by Ignitionnet (Fri 13-Jan-17 15:05:40)

Standard User 23Prince
(experienced) Fri 13-Jan-17 15:26:41
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Re: TalkTalk FTTC Speeds


[re: jaydub] [link to this post]
 
Mixed bag here.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/57dce2a8406...

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

No idea why the upload is so low. It's 18 on ST.Net
Standard User jaydub
(experienced) Fri 13-Jan-17 16:08:31
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Re: TalkTalk FTTC Speeds


[re: Ignitionnet] [link to this post]
 
There has been some dialogue between Pulse8 and TTB and Pulse8 have now raised this as a formal issue with TTB.

Will keep you posted in terms of any progress (or otherwise!).


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 13-Jan-17 16:13:49
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Re: TalkTalk FTTC Speeds


[re: 23Prince] [link to this post]
 
http://tbb.st/148364731129140078039

Seems to be variable for you

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Standard User 23Prince
(experienced) Fri 13-Jan-17 19:39:38
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Re: TalkTalk FTTC Speeds


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
dosent affect the performance, not sure if should?
Standard User Mac99
(newbie) Fri 13-Jan-17 21:21:58
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Re: TalkTalk FTTC Speeds


[re: 23Prince] [link to this post]
 
I am currently with an ISP who use Talk Talk and have the same single thread speed issues reported on here. From the numerous posts in the forum it would appear that at least some are congestion related.

I will outset say I am a total novice and have no understanding of the technical aspects of broadband delivery but in this day and age, where congestion is an issue at an exchange, I would think that an ISP would be able to monitor such issues. So for example any ISP using Talk Talk back haul would have some method of gauging congestion from the telephone number used on the checker or before confirming an order.

But the single thread speed issues (whatever the cause) do seem to be affecting rather a lot of ISP's and it appears the list is getting bigger.

Regards
Mac
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Fri 13-Jan-17 21:56:16
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Re: TalkTalk FTTC Speeds


[re: Mac99] [link to this post]
 
if its widespread and affecting all TTB resellers, then aaisp will probably do something about it.

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Edited by Chrysalis (Sat 14-Jan-17 01:55:28)

Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Fri 13-Jan-17 23:51:27
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Re: TalkTalk FTTC Speeds


[re: Mac99] [link to this post]
 
My next hop changed a few weeks back from a BRAS in Leeds to one that I think is in London. Wonder if TalkTalk have been centralising L2TP termination and pushed something too hard?
Standard User Mac99
(newbie) Sat 14-Jan-17 10:28:15
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Re: TalkTalk FTTC Speeds


[re: Ignitionnet] [link to this post]
 
Hi Chrysalis,

The ISP in question is not AA, although what you say might be true as AA I believe do use TTB.

Hi Ignition,

I seem to recollect L2TP being mentioned somewhere and from memory, TTB saying to ISP that their kit was allowing more L2TP connections than should.

My interpretation of this is TTB are allowing more connections and this is the reason for the congestion. What they don't however say is whether this is faulty equipment or deliberate, although I would surprised if they were honest enough to say it was deliberate.

However as I say, this is at some exchanges not all.

I think the point I was trying to make and maybe badly was an ISP should check for congestion before going through to service provision and if there is congestion then they should be honest enough to say so before accepting the order.

In an ideal world, this would allow the customer to make a fully informed decision without having to find out after the event and having to either live with the problem for a good long while until resolved or even to have to wait for the length of the contract.

Regards
Mac

Edited by Mac99 (Sat 14-Jan-17 10:29:11)

Standard User jaydub
(experienced) Sat 14-Jan-17 11:23:33
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Re: TalkTalk FTTC Speeds


[re: Mac99] [link to this post]
 
Both Skilty and I have tried upgrading to the P8 Business connection with absolutely no difference to our TBB speed test results, so I don't believe this is congestion. TTB have also confirmed to P8 that they don't see my performance issues as being congestion related.

The TBB single thread speed is absolutely consistent with downloading a TBB test file and the results are very consistent

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

However if I test using TestMy.Net, a site that prides itself as a single thread test site, I get full speeds.

Thu Jan 12 2017 @ 12:00:37 pm up 6.1 MB 7.93 Mbps 992 kB/s
Thu Jan 12 2017 @ 12:00:19 pm down 200 MB 36.4 Mbps 4.55 MB/s
Thu Jan 12 2017 @ 11:00:34 am up 6.2 MB 7.7 Mbps 963 kB/s
Thu Jan 12 2017 @ 11:00:18 am down 200 MB 36.03 Mbps 4.5 MB/s
Thu Jan 12 2017 @ 10:00:28 am up 6.3 MB 7.78 Mbps 973 kB/s
Thu Jan 12 2017 @ 10:00:11 am down 200 MB 37.15 Mbps 4.64 MB/s
Thu Jan 12 2017 @ 09:00:28 am up 6.3 MB 7.85 Mbps 981 kB/s
Thu Jan 12 2017 @ 09:00:10 am down 200 MB 35.79 Mbps 4.47 MB/s
Thu Jan 12 2017 @ 07:59:40 am up 6.3 MB 8.57 Mbps 1.07 MB/s
Thu Jan 12 2017 @ 07:59:28 am down 43.1 MB 35.69 Mbps 4.46 MB/s

I have found a Dutch download test file site at:

http://test.unet.nl/1000mb.bin

that downloaded at 35.7 Mbps, which is in line with the TestMy.Net tests.

So results are variable depending on where you test.

Feels more like a peering issue to me.
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