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Standard User Barneyabz
(experienced) Wed 08-Jul-20 20:22:08
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Openreach FTTP


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Anyone know when TalkTalk will be reselling Openreach FTTP.? I can get BT 900/110 but am holding out for TalkTalk for the moment but beginning to wonder whether I'm being silly waiting with still no announcements from TalkTalk .

Thanks

Barney

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 08-Jul-20 23:19:34
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Re: Openreach FTTP


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If you live in Salisbury phone them or try their own support forums

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Standard User thomaswarne01
(member) Wed 08-Jul-20 23:27:43
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TalkTalk-TheRegisterINFO
A google found this link may be of use to you.
also an interesting read.


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Standard User Barneyabz
(experienced) Thu 09-Jul-20 18:19:23
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Thanks for the link. Had seen it previously but no update since then from TalkTalk. Oh well.

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Standard User Barneyabz
(experienced) Thu 09-Jul-20 18:21:37
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Don't live in Salisbury, or York sadly. Tried the TalkTalk forums, but nobody knows anything there either. Thanks anyway.

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Standard User Highland76
(member) Thu 09-Jul-20 18:33:40
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Should be this month.

BT Business FTTP 330/50 -- Netgear RAX200
Standard User burble
(committed) Thu 09-Jul-20 19:20:19
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Second time of trying to post this has my internet keeps dropping.
It should be sometime this month, but is supposed to be a soft launch, so I guess little if any advertising.
With the wet weather over the last few days I'm sometimes down to 2Mbps, or losing connection, so I'm looking forward to FTTP.
Standard User bloodycat
(member) Tue 25-Aug-20 21:26:03
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When they phoned me last month to try to get me to convert my legacy F2S ADSL they still had no idea when FTTP would be available.

After the latest notification of yet another price increases I have decided to move to Zen - for what my current ADSL2 service will cost after the increase I can get FTTP 100Mb with no future price rises, unlike talktalk who increase prices annually once initial contract period is over despite offering much faster services for less on a new contract.
Standard User Highland76
(member) Tue 25-Aug-20 21:48:15
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Or you can make a note in your diary when your TT minimum term ends and nearer the date either re-negotiate a new contract or leave them. Ditto for your gas & electric. Its not rocket science.

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Standard User Chippy_Tea_
(experienced) Wed 26-Aug-20 15:59:10
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In reply to a post by Highland76:
Or you can make a note in your diary when your TT minimum term ends and nearer the date either re-negotiate a new contract or leave them. Ditto for your gas & electric. Its not rocket science.


Well said, i have been doing this for years even though i had no intention of leaving.

I pay £27.50 i get 70Mbps (see test in link below)

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/_assets/speedtest/but...

Unless i have missed something Zen is £7.49 per month dearer.

£34.99
monthly
£19.99 set-up fee

.

Edited by Chippy_Tea_ (Wed 26-Aug-20 16:06:44)

Standard User bloodycat
(member) Thu 27-Aug-20 12:20:28
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Yes Zen are more expensive than the possible offering from TalkTalk, but talktalk can currently only offer FTTC not FTTP and it is the few hundred metres of copper from the cabinet to my house (via telegraph pole) that is the weak link in my connection. Also I believe TalkTalk are still incapable of providing IPv6, which although not currently essential could be useful.

It's not just about cost, reliability, technical competence and customer service all count. I don't want to have to keep renegotiating and getting tied into a new contract every 12/18 months to stop being ripped off.
Standard User Chippy_Tea_
(experienced) Thu 27-Aug-20 13:46:21
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In reply to a post by bloodycat:
It's not just about cost, reliability, technical competence and customer service all count. I don't want to have to keep renegotiating and getting tied into a new contract every 12/18 months to stop being ripped off.


I don't find making one phone call every 18 months to save money or get something extra too much trouble and as you say TT being incapable of providing IPv6 isn't essential, it looks like you have made your mind up i wish you well with your new provider.
Standard User Highland76
(member) Thu 27-Aug-20 13:52:29
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In reply to a post by bloodycat:
Yes Zen are more expensive than the possible offering from TalkTalk, but talktalk can currently only offer FTTC not FTTP and it is the few hundred metres of copper from the cabinet to my house (via telegraph pole) that is the weak link in my connection. Also I believe TalkTalk are still incapable of providing IPv6, which although not currently essential could be useful.

It's not just about cost, reliability, technical competence and customer service all count. I don't want to have to keep renegotiating and getting tied into a new contract every 12/18 months to stop being ripped off.


TalkTalk do offer Openreach FTTP now, its been a few weeks since they started selling it. However they have a separate full fibre sales team and its phone orders only at present. They will almost certainly offer it to you if your head-end exchange is TalkTalk FTTC/P enabled (most are):

https://www.talktalk.co.uk/shop/broadband/futurefibr...

Wrt IPv6, 99% of average users have no need for it. I'd guess your average user won't even know what IPv6 is, never mind have the requirement for it.

As for re-negotiating a new contract every 18-24 months, to many that will be no more than a minor inconvenience as long as they're getting a good deal. You pays your money and you takes your choice...

BT Business FTTP 330/50 Mbps -- Netgear RAX200
Standard User burble
(committed) Thu 27-Aug-20 14:51:57
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In reply to a post by Highland76:
In reply to a post by bloodycat:
Yes Zen are more expensive than the possible offering from TalkTalk, but talktalk can currently only offer FTTC not FTTP and it is the few hundred metres of copper from the cabinet to my house (via telegraph pole) that is the weak link in my connection. Also I believe TalkTalk are still incapable of providing IPv6, which although not currently essential could be useful.

It's not just about cost, reliability, technical competence and customer service all count. I don't want to have to keep renegotiating and getting tied into a new contract every 12/18 months to stop being ripped off.


TalkTalk do offer Openreach FTTP now, its been a few weeks since they started selling it. However they have a separate full fibre sales team and its phone orders only at present. They will almost certainly offer it to you if your head-end exchange is TalkTalk FTTC/P enabled (most are):

https://www.talktalk.co.uk/shop/broadband/futurefibr...

Wrt IPv6, 99% of average users have no need for it. I'd guess your average user won't even know what IPv6 is, never mind have the requirement for it.

As for re-negotiating a new contract every 18-24 months, to many that will be no more than a minor inconvenience as long as they're getting a good deal. You pays your money and you takes your choice...


Even though I get FTTC from TT they are not able to offer FTTP from my exchange, from my conversations with OCE's, helpline, and CEO's office it appears this is very common and why they are not going full on with offering this, meanwhile AFAIK all other ISP's offering FTTP are happy to take a order from me.
Standard User Highland76
(member) Thu 27-Aug-20 15:06:01
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In your case they may not have sufficient backhaul capacity at the exchange to support FTTP services.

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Edited by Highland76 (Thu 27-Aug-20 15:07:23)

Standard User burble
(committed) Thu 27-Aug-20 15:35:19
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It would seem so, but further developments, this thread prompted me to phone TT again.
TT are still uncertain how porting the landline number to a VIOP provider will work, this seems such a fundamental part of the change, but the operator I spoke to couldn't answer that question, all he knew was they wouldn't have anymore dealings with the landline number.
My question was twofold, firstly could I port the number straight away without a stop being put on the entire service (as would normally be the case), or failing that if waiting until the FTTP service went live and TT dropped the landline number would it still be available to port over, or would it disappear into the ether (which wouldn't surprise me with TT).

Now here's something which very odd, twice before I've been offered FTTP from TT, and both times the offer has been withdrawn citing problems with exchange equipment (or capacity?).
This time I once again phoned the 'future fibre' number, and yes I could have FTTP, but it became obvious the operator hadn't realised I was an existing customer. This is what happened once before, phoned and was mistaken as a new customer and offered FTTP, then the offer was withdrawn.
I'm now told someone will ring me back sometime in the next two to three weeks to try and sort this out!
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