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Standard User CJT
(experienced) Tue 28-Jun-22 12:27:10
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Joining Talk Talk G.Fast


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Good Afternoon,

In the process of buying a new house, and the location supports G.Fast, so after some shopping around I found Talk Talk offer a 150 Mbps package which suits my needs (I am moving from a similar package with Hyperoptic).

My question is: Will I get a Openreach G.Fast Modem as part of the managed install from TT? I can't seem to get a definitive answer from TT and I wasn't keen on joining their forum again before joining them.

Hopefully someone here can let me know smile

CJT.

Currently on Hyperoptic 100Mbps ...

Previously on NOW TV Broadband up to 38 Mbps, then BT Broadband up to 80Mbps, then Pluse8 Broadband up to 80 Mbps
Standard User kpf61
(newbie) Sat 02-Jul-22 22:42:34
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Hi, yeah you should get new kit as it will be configured for TT, Is it Full Fibre, i.e. fibre optic coming into your property? You can use your own modem/router..but if there is any issues do not expect much help from any provider, the kit providers supply(might not be the best) are supported by the provider.
Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 03-Jul-22 06:48:24
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Depend how far away from the G.fast cabinet and what does BTw checker say in your estimate Range A clean for G.fast?

TalkTalk Wi-Fi Hub Spec below:

Tech Spec
Antenna array:

4x4 5GHz and 3x3 2.4GHz
Wi-Fi technology:

2.4GHz Wi-Fi (802.11 b/g/n) and MU-MIMO 5GHz Wi-Fi (802.11 a/n/ac)
Network Access Types:

ADSL2+ & VDSL2 (fibre ready) modem
Security:

WPA2 / WPA / WEP
Integrated firewall
WPS Enabled
Connectivity:

1 x RJ11 xDSL port
4x gigabit Ethernet LAN port
1x gigabit WAN port
UPnP (with port forwarding and mapping)


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Standard User jpm
(experienced) Sun 03-Jul-22 11:28:05
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Re: Joining Talk Talk G.Fast


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The TalkTalk router doesn't have a G.fast modem built in, so you will get an Openreach-provided one.
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Sun 03-Jul-22 11:43:13
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Is it Full Fibre, i.e. fibre optic coming into your property?

Errrr…I thought the thread title was G.Fast….😎
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Sun 03-Jul-22 11:45:59
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The OP question was

“Will I get a Openreach G.Fast Modem as part of the managed install from TT?”

Not what speeds am I likely to receive on G.Fast….🤔
Standard User Jack_Hackett
(knowledge is power) Sun 03-Jul-22 14:33:53
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In reply to a post by Pheasant:
The OP question was

“Will I get a Openreach G.Fast Modem as part of the managed install from TT?”

Not what speeds am I likely to receive on G.Fast….🤔


He should change his title to "Obsessed by speed" crazy
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Mon 04-Jul-22 09:36:08
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[re: Pheasant] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Pheasant:
The OP question was

“Will I get a Openreach G.Fast Modem as part of the managed install from TT?”

Not what speeds am I likely to receive on G.Fast….🤔


if the speed is not much faster than normal FTTC, then it is not really worth paying the extra for g.fast, so for once I can see where ADSLMAX is going.

Adrian

Desktop machine Ryzen powered with windows something or other.

Plusnet FTTC
Standard User CJT
(experienced) Tue 05-Jul-22 12:29:36
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Re: Joining Talk Talk G.Fast


[re: kpf61] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by kpf61:
Hi, yeah you should get new kit as it will be configured for TT, Is it Full Fibre, i.e. fibre optic coming into your property? You can use your own modem/router..but if there is any issues do not expect much help from any provider, the kit providers supply(might not be the best) are supported by the provider.


Thanks for the confirmation. It's G.Fast so on FTTC.

CJT.

Currently on Hyperoptic 100Mbps ...

Previously on NOW TV Broadband up to 38 Mbps, then BT Broadband up to 80Mbps, then Pluse8 Broadband up to 80 Mbps
Standard User CJT
(experienced) Tue 05-Jul-22 12:30:51
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I am very close to the Cabinet and should get up to 330 Mbps!

Pic of DSL Checker (Pic will expire after 1 week)

As you can see it's worth going for G.Fast

CJT.

Currently on Hyperoptic 100Mbps ...

Previously on NOW TV Broadband up to 38 Mbps, then BT Broadband up to 80Mbps, then Pluse8 Broadband up to 80 Mbps
Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 05-Jul-22 12:41:37
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Sorry but not interested in gfast. Overall happy with my current fttc 80/20
Standard User Jack_Hackett
(knowledge is power) Tue 05-Jul-22 14:41:34
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In reply to a post by adslmax:
Sorry but not interested in gfast. Overall happy with my current fttc 80/20


No one asked you why do you always do this?
Standard User CJT
(experienced) Tue 05-Jul-22 21:24:55
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In reply to a post by adslmax:
Sorry but not interested in gfast. Overall happy with my current fttc 80/20


Sorry adslmax but at which point did I try and suggest you wanted G.Fast?

You replied to my post and I replied back to you.

With respect if you have nothing useful to add to what I am asking, please don't reply for the sake of replying, as it's unhelpful.

CJT.

Currently on Hyperoptic 100Mbps ...

Previously on NOW TV Broadband up to 38 Mbps, then BT Broadband up to 80Mbps, then Pluse8 Broadband up to 80 Mbps
Standard User CJT
(experienced) Tue 05-Jul-22 21:27:16
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[re: zyborg47] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by zyborg47:
In reply to a post by Pheasant:
The OP question was

“Will I get a Openreach G.Fast Modem as part of the managed install from TT?”

Not what speeds am I likely to receive on G.Fast….🤔


if the speed is not much faster than normal FTTC, then it is not really worth paying the extra for g.fast, so for once I can see where ADSLMAX is going.


Having been on this forum for a few years, I checked the Wholesale Checker before going ahead with looking at G.Fast.

Sadly though the reply from adslmax was fair, their further reply is just infuriating!

CJT.

Currently on Hyperoptic 100Mbps ...

Previously on NOW TV Broadband up to 38 Mbps, then BT Broadband up to 80Mbps, then Pluse8 Broadband up to 80 Mbps
Standard User CJT
(experienced) Tue 05-Jul-22 21:28:58
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In reply to a post by jpm:
The TalkTalk router doesn't have a G.fast modem built in, so you will get an Openreach-provided one.


Thanks jpm that was my hope, and I should have posted back here (but am right towards the end of finalising a house purchase) and said I had posted on the TT Community and someone there also confirmed I will get an Openreach modem, which is great news!

CJT.

Currently on Hyperoptic 100Mbps ...

Previously on NOW TV Broadband up to 38 Mbps, then BT Broadband up to 80Mbps, then Pluse8 Broadband up to 80 Mbps
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 06-Jul-22 11:21:48
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Re: Joining Talk Talk G.Fast


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Very similar to mine …

VDSL Range A (Clean) help 80 77.6 20 19 72.4 Available Available --
VDSL Range B (Impacted) help 80 77.3 20 19 71.5 Available Available --
G.fast Range A (Clean) help 330 320.2 50 41.6 292.1 Available Available --
G.fast Range B (Impacted) help 330 293.2 50 29 274.3

… and I have to say, it’s been rock solid.

**Ignore Max, life is too short. He says he’s not interested in Gfast …. but he had the damn thing, and Lord, didn’t we hear all about it 🙄**

Standard User CJT
(experienced) Wed 06-Jul-22 12:40:09
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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
Very similar to mine …

VDSL Range A (Clean) help 80 77.6 20 19 72.4 Available Available --
VDSL Range B (Impacted) help 80 77.3 20 19 71.5 Available Available --
G.fast Range A (Clean) help 330 320.2 50 41.6 292.1 Available Available --
G.fast Range B (Impacted) help 330 293.2 50 29 274.3

… and I have to say, it’s been rock solid.

**Ignore Max, life is too short. He says he’s not interested in Gfast …. but he had the damn thing, and Lord, didn’t we hear all about it 🙄**


Thanks Zazjaz glad to hear yours has been rock solid.

I'll report back once it's all installed (fingers crossed) next week!

CJT.

Currently on Hyperoptic 100Mbps ...

Previously on NOW TV Broadband up to 38 Mbps, then BT Broadband up to 80Mbps, then Pluse8 Broadband up to 80 Mbps
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Thu 07-Jul-22 08:53:48
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[re: CJT] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by CJT:
Having been on this forum for a few years, I checked the Wholesale Checker before going ahead with looking at G.Fast.

Sadly though the reply from adslmax was fair, their further reply is just infuriating!


Not worth letting it get to you, this is just a forum with people who you don't know.

Adrian

Desktop machine Ryzen powered with windows something or other.

Plusnet FTTC
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Thu 07-Jul-22 08:58:52
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[re: adslmax] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by adslmax:
Sorry but not interested in gfast. Overall happy with my current fttc 80/20


you seem to change your broadband more times than some people change their phones.
I have been with Plusnet for 7 years, granted i did think about changing when the last contract ended, but i have stayed with them.
I may change in Jun next year depending on if I decide to go for FTTP. The thing at the moment is price.

Adrian

Desktop machine Ryzen powered with windows something or other.

Plusnet FTTC
Standard User CJT
(experienced) Thu 07-Jul-22 12:30:48
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In reply to a post by zyborg47:
In reply to a post by CJT:
Having been on this forum for a few years, I checked the Wholesale Checker before going ahead with looking at G.Fast.

Sadly though the reply from adslmax was fair, their further reply is just infuriating!


Not worth letting it get to you, this is just a forum with people who you don't know.


Thanks, that's very true, just had no idea why they needed to reply with what they said... total waste of time..

CJT.

Currently on Hyperoptic 100Mbps ...

Previously on NOW TV Broadband up to 38 Mbps, then BT Broadband up to 80Mbps, then Pluse8 Broadband up to 80 Mbps
Standard User Jack_Hackett
(knowledge is power) Thu 07-Jul-22 15:51:30
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[re: CJT] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by CJT:
In reply to a post by zyborg47:
In reply to a post by CJT:
Having been on this forum for a few years, I checked the Wholesale Checker before going ahead with looking at G.Fast.

Sadly though the reply from adslmax was fair, their further reply is just infuriating!


Not worth letting it get to you, this is just a forum with people who you don't know.


Thanks, that's very true, just had no idea why they needed to reply with what they said... total waste of time..


He cannot help himself he is well known on forums like this and has been banned off most of them (sometimes only temporarily)
Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 07-Jul-22 22:45:05
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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
**Ignore Max, life is too short. He says he’s not interested in Gfast …. but he had the damn thing, and Lord, didn’t we hear all about it 🙄**


I do not have G.fast anymore.

Proof here with my FTTC below:

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/16572302575...
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 08-Jul-22 06:11:28
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[re: adslmax] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by adslmax:
In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
**Ignore Max, life is too short. He says he’s not interested in Gfast …. but he had the damn thing, and Lord, didn’t we hear all about it 🙄**


I do not have G.fast anymore.

Proof here with my FTTC below:

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/16572302575...

So you agree with me. Thanks.

Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Fri 08-Jul-22 08:54:29
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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
So you agree with me. Thanks.


I thought g.fast you had to be very close to the cabinet to get any advantage? I don't think we have any g.fast here at all, not that it would be of any use to me as my cabinet is a long way.

Adrian

Desktop machine Ryzen powered with windows something or other.

Plusnet FTTC
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Fri 08-Jul-22 09:25:37
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Which is one of the reasons why it’s no longer a strategic product, the number of properties able to attain the speeds was too small.

Fibre killed the copper star.
Standard User Jack_Hackett
(knowledge is power) Fri 08-Jul-22 17:01:17
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[re: adslmax] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by adslmax:
In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
**Ignore Max, life is too short. He says he’s not interested in Gfast …. but he had the damn thing, and Lord, didn’t we hear all about it 🙄**


I do not have G.fast anymore.

Proof here with my FTTC below:

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/16572302575...


No one said they didn't believe you, but you had to post another speed test.
How are you coping with such a slow speed wink




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Edited by Jack_Hackett (Fri 08-Jul-22 17:03:51)

Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 08-Jul-22 17:38:26
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[re: Jack_Hackett] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:
In reply to a post by adslmax:
In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
**Ignore Max, life is too short. He says he’s not interested in Gfast …. but he had the damn thing, and Lord, didn’t we hear all about it 🙄**


I do not have G.fast anymore.

Proof here with my FTTC below:

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/16572302575...


No one said they didn't believe you, but you had to post another speed test.
How are you coping with such a slow speed wink




.


Very happy overall no problem at all
Standard User Jack_Hackett
(knowledge is power) Fri 08-Jul-22 17:53:42
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[re: adslmax] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by adslmax:
In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:
In reply to a post by adslmax:
... nested quotes trimmed ...


I do not have G.fast anymore.

Proof here with my FTTC below:

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/16572302575...


No one said they didn't believe you, but you had to post another speed test.
How are you coping with such a slow speed wink




.


Very happy overall no problem at all


I find that very hard to believe.
Standard User CJT
(experienced) Fri 08-Jul-22 20:22:43
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zyborg47

Which I am thankfully. smile

Decided to go for a faster service as it was available.

Other properties I looked at had FTTP.

Never imagined I would consider Broadband speeds a factor in house purchasing!

CJT.

Currently on Hyperoptic 100Mbps ...

Previously on NOW TV Broadband up to 38 Mbps, then BT Broadband up to 80Mbps, then Pluse8 Broadband up to 80 Mbps
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 08-Jul-22 21:01:20
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Never imagined I would consider Broadband speeds a factor in house purchasing!

I have moved, either to rented or bought, 3 times since my original Metronet fixed 1 meg … and what speeds I would be able to get has flavoured the choice greatly.

No FTTP available on this estate (though Lord knows why not, all nicely ducted) lots of family homes eager for bandwidth, an easy win for whoever installs first).

105m to the cab. Nailed up 80meg, then got G.fast when it came out. All very happy.

Standard User CJT
(experienced) Sat 09-Jul-22 18:56:09
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Never imagined I would consider Broadband speeds a factor in house purchasing!

I have moved, either to rented or bought, 3 times since my original Metronet fixed 1 meg … and what speeds I would be able to get has flavoured the choice greatly.

No FTTP available on this estate (though Lord knows why not, all nicely ducted) lots of family homes eager for bandwidth, an easy win for whoever installs first).

105m to the cab. Nailed up 80meg, then got G.fast when it came out. All very happy.


MetroNet now there's a blast from the past. I first moved up to Manchester (where I have now bought a house) in the early 2000's and I joined MetroNet (well the other half at the time did) for our ADSL service, from there I moved to Virgin Media (ADSL) and then onto other providers. I remember having a second phone line installed during the dial up day's so that my Parents phone line wasn't engaged with me being online all the time.

How times and speeds have changed!

CJT.

Currently on Hyperoptic 100Mbps ...

Previously on NOW TV Broadband up to 38 Mbps, then BT Broadband up to 80Mbps, then Pluse8 Broadband up to 80 Mbps
Standard User jpm
(experienced) Sat 09-Jul-22 22:18:14
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MetroNet have been absorbed into M247 now along with Venus and the quality of the service is in the toilet. It's a shame but they seem to have a "pile it high, sell it cheap" model now.
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Sun 10-Jul-22 09:16:06
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zyborg47

Which I am thankfully. smile

Decided to go for a faster service as it was available.

Other properties I looked at had FTTP.

Never imagined I would consider Broadband speeds a factor in house purchasing!



I can't see myself ever purchasing a house now to be honest unless I win the lottery or move in with the other half and then that is her house, not mine. Broadband is fine where she is as she has FTTP, which is strange since she lives in a small village.


I am not saying i would not look at broadband speeds if i moved, but as long as i can get at least the same speed i have now, that is fine.

Adrian

Desktop machine Ryzen powered with windows something or other.

Plusnet FTTC
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Sun 10-Jul-22 09:17:43
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[re: jpm] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by jpm:
MetroNet have been absorbed into M247 now along with Venus and the quality of the service is in the toilet. It's a shame but they seem to have a "pile it high, sell it cheap" model now.


i loved Metronet, it was a great ISP and then plusnet grabbed hold of it, so I vanished very quickly from it. Now i am back with plusnet.

Adrian

Desktop machine Ryzen powered with windows something or other.

Plusnet FTTC
Standard User CJT
(experienced) Tue 12-Jul-22 09:21:25
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jpm

I think we maybe talking about different MetroNet's.

THIS Metronet has been part of PlusNet for years!

CJT.

Currently on Hyperoptic 100Mbps ...

Previously on NOW TV Broadband up to 38 Mbps, then BT Broadband up to 80Mbps, then Pluse8 Broadband up to 80 Mbps
Standard User CJT
(experienced) Tue 12-Jul-22 09:23:07
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zyborg247

They were indeed consumed (I think that's an appropriate word) by PlusNet along with MAAF (Mad As A Fish). My parents are with PN and I have never had an issue with them, sadly they don't offer G.Fast.

CJT.

Currently on Hyperoptic 100Mbps ...

Previously on NOW TV Broadband up to 38 Mbps, then BT Broadband up to 80Mbps, then Pluse8 Broadband up to 80 Mbps
Standard User CJT
(experienced) Thu 14-Jul-22 10:01:16
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Just to let you know the Openreach engineer arrived (as booked) on Monday with a Modem for the G/Fast service, and finally (due to a delay with TT) the router arrived yesterday.

Will update my Sig soon as I am still at the previous rented property moving things.

CJT.

Currently on Hyperoptic 100Mbps and TalkTalk Fibre 150

Previously on NOW TV Broadband up to 38 Mbps, then BT Broadband up to 80Mbps, then Pluse8 Broadband up to 80 Mbps
Standard User mr_mojo
(knowledge is power) Mon 01-Aug-22 15:41:34
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How is the service/speed/congestion? All good? I'm looking to do a similar move (hyperoptic to TT Gfast)
Standard User CJT
(experienced) Wed 03-Aug-22 18:09:20
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How is the service/speed/congestion? All good? I'm looking to do a similar move (hyperoptic to TT Gfast)


Hi mr_mojo

No issues here, getting the full 150 Mbps. TT Support (via the forum) have been fine, and oddly I got a £5.25 credit for them not sending the router in time to get me going on day 1. So I have to say "So far, very good". Not sure I will use their router long term, but for now it works.

CJT.

Currently on TalkTalk Fibre 150

Previously on NOW TV Broadband up to 38 Mbps, then BT Broadband up to 80Mbps, then Pluse8 Broadband up to 80 Mbps, then Hyperoptic 100Mbps.
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