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Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Wed 02-Nov-22 22:15:45
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TalkTalk having a bad night 02-11-22


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Anyone else seeing TT / TTB connectivity issues this evening?

BQM is truly Halloween like!!
Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 03-Nov-22 00:36:33
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Nope all fine in the North East.

Tim
talktalkbusiness.net & freenetname
Asus RT-AC68U and ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A Bridge on 80/20 Meg Fibre
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Highest Sync: 79993/19661

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Standard User ft247
(committed) Thu 03-Nov-22 01:47:47
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Almost exactly the same here - S London.

Pretty similar.


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Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Thu 03-Nov-22 05:45:31
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Thanks for corroborating. A couple of those red spikes on my graph would have been me cycling the router and ONT.

Seems to have resolved now. Noticed a period of reduced baseline latency (about half what it normally is) from about before 1am this morning for a almost 4 hours. Then restored to its previous level. Perhaps some routing changes.
Standard User Spudster
(regular) Thu 03-Nov-22 09:29:04
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Similar. This was mine.
Standard User jpm
(experienced) Thu 03-Nov-22 09:40:47
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Yes, TalkTalk Business last night

https://i.imgur.com/JT9OdtX.png
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Thu 03-Nov-22 09:46:18
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Mmmm yep. TTB ‘support’ site was and still is down too.
Standard User jpm
(experienced) Thu 03-Nov-22 10:39:30
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I've had a ticket open since I got an FTTC service because it doesn't exist in the portal and nobody seems to be able to fix it. I think the contract will expire on the connection before they manage to fix whatever is broken in Salesforce.

The actual connection is spot on, but their IT systems are abysmal.
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Thu 03-Nov-22 14:29:05
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No argument here. Pretty much sums up my experiences.
Standard User jpm
(experienced) Thu 03-Nov-22 16:35:58
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Anybody seen this kicking off again?
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Thu 03-Nov-22 16:37:05
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Just had another micro-outage.

Around 3.5 minutes from 16:21:58 to 16:25:31.

BQM is not pretty.
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Thu 03-Nov-22 16:38:46
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Yep. As above. Something is flapping away.
Standard User jpm
(experienced) Thu 03-Nov-22 17:40:53
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TalkTalk support are treating it as an individual issue despite being told that other people have the same problem at the same time so I guess we are waiting for somebody in networks to notice and fix it.
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Thu 03-Nov-22 19:09:57
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I guess I should notify “support”….
Standard User burble
(committed) Thu 03-Nov-22 20:09:25
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TTB, last night had problems a couple of times, this morning when checking a old TalkTalk email account Outlook took a long time to sync, not noticed any problems tonight.
Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 04-Nov-22 01:54:58
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On FTTC, couple of PPP drops around 1030 and 0020 today. Had to reboot PC as DNS got extremely confused.

Tim
talktalkbusiness.net & freenetname
Asus RT-AC68U and ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A Bridge on 80/20 Meg Fibre
Speed Test

Highest Sync: 79993/19661

BQM
Standard User Spudster
(regular) Fri 04-Nov-22 08:39:51
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Yes, this was me yesterday.

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...
Standard User jpm
(experienced) Fri 04-Nov-22 20:17:52
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And it's back, all the BQMs posted here showing the same issue
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Fri 04-Nov-22 21:14:13
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Ugh. This is getting tiresome.
Standard User jpm
(experienced) Fri 04-Nov-22 21:55:03
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I've gone back through BQMs and noticed some issues in the early hours of the 27th October - did you see anything on your service then?

https://i.imgur.com/tYXFLv4.png
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 04-Nov-22 21:58:20
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Are any of you guys running any other monitoring thats showing the same issue at the same time?
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Fri 04-Nov-22 22:01:44
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Yep - three packet loss events / spikes...

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...

Theres also a very noticeable step change in minimum latency on the 25th and 26th in the early PM on both days.

See here and here

Which to be fair I've not noticed previously (or for that matter paid much attention to the significance). There have been other step changes in latency as if routing is changing recently.

Edited by Pheasant (Fri 04-Nov-22 22:08:14)

Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Fri 04-Nov-22 22:02:17
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Yes sir. Its evident on other third party (external - as in outside the UK) monitoring I have running.

Edited by Pheasant (Fri 04-Nov-22 22:03:24)

Standard User jpm
(experienced) Fri 04-Nov-22 22:35:17
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I'm getting alerted that VPN tunnels are flapping, so this isn't just s BQM thing
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 04-Nov-22 22:52:00
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Just wanted to throw that possibility into the ring just in case but from what you and Pheasant have said its something much more serious frown
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Sat 05-Nov-22 07:22:00
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Yep it’s not just a rough looking BQM it’s actual loss of service at the time it’s been flapping. I’m seeing this (a) in the loss of the service from within, (b) BQM graphs and (c) other external (USA) monitoring tools which are alerting to connection loss.

So yes BQM is doing its job; its an accurate reflection of the state of the service under test. It’s not (just) a routing issue / glitch between TalkTalk and TBB servers.

Just to add there’s no indication this is an Openreach ‘last mile’ FTTP connection issue - the PON has been solid throughout from what I could see.

Edited by Pheasant (Sat 05-Nov-22 07:26:09)

Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Sat 05-Nov-22 07:34:25
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In reply to a post by jpm:
I'm getting alerted that VPN tunnels are flapping, so this isn't just s BQM thing

Ditto I have a site to site tunnel that is flapping when this happens. Can’t see that PPPoE session is being dropped**, just heavy / total packet loss. The fact it’s happening approximately around the same peak evening time as previous day suggests to me it could be load related somewhere in their core network.

** need to really inspect router logs properly. This might not be accurate.

Edited by Pheasant (Sat 05-Nov-22 07:36:16)

Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Sat 05-Nov-22 07:52:59
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Well so far today (early doors so prob tempting fate) the graph is far cleaner at the baseline.
Standard User jpm
(experienced) Sat 05-Nov-22 18:16:38
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I'm wondering why I never did a traceroute back to the connection in question when it was having problems to see if the hop with the issues could be observed. As much as I would like the problem not to come back, I'd at least like to see where it is if it does.
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