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(deleted) Tue 08-Dec-09 12:49:05
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Call Drop because Echo not received in time - What is this?


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I have recently moved over to Talk Talk and been given a D Link DSL-2640R modem router on LLU. However, when I boot the computer on an evening (router is on 24/7) it was always lose sync in the first 2 mins or so. Checking the router log gets me the message "Call Drop because Echo not received in time".

Doing a search on Google with the entry "Call drop because echo reply not received in time" finds loads of posts in TT forums???

However, no one there seems to have an answer - just a load of suspicions as to the problem. They admins are changing profiles left right and centre, but the common issue is the DLInk router - is there likely to be a hardward/firmware fault?

Does anyone know what this message actually means and can some setting be tweaked in the router to stop the thing dropping its connection?

Any help gratefully appreciated.

However, if this fails and because my Belkin is not letting my PC connect via it to teh web - I will be in the market for a N-series mode router. Any advice is to a model.

I am on a profile of 24FSNR15 and
Typical stats are:
Downstream Rate 12270 kb/s
Upstream Rate 632 kb/s
Downstream SNR 14.6 dB
Attenuation 23 dB

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(deleted) Tue 22-Dec-09 12:37:45
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Can anyone not even have a guess at this one?
There have been 111 views..
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Standard User b4dger
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 22-Dec-09 13:20:45
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Perhaps your PC is producing lots of interference when it starts up (noisy power supply etc.)? Can you monitor the error counts on the router via another device when you are starting up your PC?

If not, try plugging the router/pc into different power sockets - use a long lead for the test.

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(deleted) Tue 22-Dec-09 15:35:18
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In reply to a post by EViLHomer:
Can anyone not even have a guess at this one?
There have been 111 views..
Thx


Sounds to me that they are saying that there is high latency on your line (the time it takes for your modem to respond to a "ping"). Your SNR margin is quite high - this seems to suggest that your line could be a little unstable. Have you got the correct filters fitted, and have you disconnected unused extensions, etc ?
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(deleted) Wed 23-Dec-09 11:29:40
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The PC has stopped dropping on start up and will now do it later or actually not at all. I don't believe the PC is causing interference, but will try to increase the distance between the PC and router (is about 1m at mo).

For the power socket I use a surge protector, so don't believe that should be an issue?
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(deleted) Wed 23-Dec-09 11:33:51
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I have a good line and am on a fastpath profile (because gamer) and the SNR is set by the profile. I alwys thought that a higher SNR was better because that allows to move from 15 - 12 - 9 - 6 to improve speeds?

New filter in master socket (not test) and 1 extension working in house but nothing attached to it.
Standard User b4dger
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 24-Dec-09 09:11:09
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You need a power 'conditioner' to smooth out spikes in your mains - different to a surge protector...

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(deleted) Thu 24-Dec-09 13:52:53
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In reply to a post by EViLHomer:
I have a good line and am on a fastpath profile (because gamer) and the SNR is set by the profile. I alwys thought that a higher SNR was better because that allows to move from 15 - 12 - 9 - 6 to improve speeds?

New filter in master socket (not test) and 1 extension working in house but nothing attached to it.



I'm not sure exactly how Talk Talk operate, but if it's similar to BT, then a 14.6dB noise margin suggests a very unstable line. Try connecting the router directly to the master socket, with nothing else connected (if you have one of the new type sockets, remove the face plate and connect to the socket behind that).
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(deleted) Tue 05-Jan-10 12:17:33
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The SNR is set by my profile of 24FSNR15.
This is the most stable profile they have (apart from a change to interleaved).

I am connected directly into the master socket and nothing else connected (apart from phone into the same microfilter).

I think the problem is with the exchange/router/computer combination and not the line.
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