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Hi
I live on the Wirral - exchange LVCAL (Samknows - You are approximately 915 metres from the exchange.)
I have a Billion 7800n router:
Parameters
DSP Firmware Version A2pB025f.d22k
DMT Status No Defect
Operational Mode G.DMT
Upstream 448
Downstream 8128
SNR Margin(Upstream) 22.0
SNR Margin(Downstream) 13.6
Line Attenuation(Upstream) 13.5
Line Attenuation(Downstream) 22.0
Reading around - everyone seems to get better speeds than me - what am I dsoing wrong?
I am on LCHOST (Entanet I think) connection - very very stable, great support - but seems slowww.
Best d/l I have ever seen was tested at 3Mbps
Can anyone offer advice?
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What does the BT speedtest http://speedtest.btcentralplus.com/ say?
Run it from a wired connection not wireless.
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Download speedachieved during the test was - 5717 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 600-7150 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :8128 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 448 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 7150 Kbps
so obviously my speed tests were rubbish 
Edited by deleted (Tue 25-Oct-11 11:48:37)
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How were you connected? Wired, I hope.
It is still a lower than I would have expected, but a lot better than you have seen. It would be worth trying again very early in the morning to see how close you can get.
What do you get from the TBB speedtest? You can run it and it will give a link to your results.
Which ISP are you with? Is it congestion on their networks that is reducing your download?
Which OS? If XP, what MTU and RWIN settings do you have? With Vista and Win7 it is not easy to alter.
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http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/LVCAL
If this was you and you wanted to try and improve it all
what provider would you go with?
AOL:
O2 / Be:
Sky / Easynet:
TalkTalk (CPW):
(Already paying a fortune to Sky)
ADSL status:
Enabled as of 30/04/2003
ADSL Max status:
Enabled as of 31/03/2006
SDSL status:
Not available
21CN WBC status:
Enabled
FTTC status:
RFS date set : 01/03/2012
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How were you connected? Wired, I hope.
YES
What do you get from the TBB speedtest? You can run it and it will give a link to your results.
3Mbps
Which ISP are you with? Is it congestion on their networks that is reducing your download?
LCHOST _ - Entanet
Which OS? If XP, what MTU and RWIN settings do you have? With Vista and Win7 it is not easy to alter.
Win7
MTU-1492
RWIN - dont know
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Do you have TBB meter installed? If so, run a couple of reasonable downloads and see what they say for speed. Then, take a screenshot of the graph - host the image on photobucket or similar ... The shape of the graph during the download can help point to congestion or a PC issue.
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Your synching at the max that ADSLmax |(GDMT) can give you and the BT IP profile reflects that.
Speed tests are not always particulary accurate mind and I find downloading a driver from Nvidea or AMD is a better indicator of speed (especially as the video driver is over 100meg in size)
For a boost in speed moving to a LLU supplier you will see a big speed jump as your attenuation is nice and low and moving to ADSL2+ you will see possibly double what you are getting now.
I have been with Sky and O2 and I really didn't get on well with Sky with their support or their supplied router and now Sky require you to take their phone line as well which may not be for you.
O2 have now changed their packages to the better and you can take just broadband with them withough having to take a phone line and if you have an o2 phone you get a discount.
Not used Be or TalkTalk so I cannot comment on them.
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http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y333/NewboyK1200...
50 MBtest
316.8 sec
165KB\sec (1324Kbps)
Edited by deleted (Tue 25-Oct-11 14:07:31)
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That, to me, suggests serious network congestion.
Late tonight - say 23:30 ish, do that same download and then a BT speedtest and post the image.
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Have a look at: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/Polchraine/TBB/...
The first is a 50MB, second BT speedtest and third a TBB speedtest. The comb at the top (switching between two levels on alternate samples) is something that I cannot over come but all three show very similar download speeds. There are two other PCs working on this liink and I also have a couple of applications open that will be using some bandwidth.
The shape is reasonably regular, no large drops or dips and I am happy with what I see - compare those to yours and you can see the potential issues you have.
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Thanks for this MHC
Will try again later
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I suggest late evening as that tends to be a quiet time and just before those who have unlimited off peak start their large download at midnight.
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http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y333/NewboyK1200...
Have to be on an early flight... sorry
Thanks for help..
I've agreed with ISP that I'll pay £15 to migrate to ADSL2+
No monthly charge change..
Hopefully will improve!
today though...
Download speedachieved during the test was - 5669 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 600-7150 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :8128 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 448 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 7150 Kbps
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Have a look when you get back ...
I still think congestion is the issue but moving to 2+ may move teh network resource too but let's wait and see.
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Parameters
DSP Firmware Version A2pB025f.d22k
DMT Status No Defect
Operational Mode ADSL2+
Upstream 1279
Downstream 19819
SNR Margin(Upstream) 7.4
SNR Margin(Downstream) 1.0
Line Attenuation(Upstream) 15.2
Line Attenuation(Downstream) 25.0
massive improvement!!
BT speed test = 14.42 now
http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y333/NewboyK1200...
http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y333/NewboyK1200...
Edited by deleted (Fri 18-Nov-11 13:20:38)
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Sync speed good, but BT speed test = 14.42 now I would expect closer to 16.5 Meg.
Also Down NM looks very low. Could indicate bad line and prone to discons.
1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 17 Meg Untweaked 19 Meg Tweaked WBC
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Depends on when the line was synced and when the stats were taken.
Quite possible to have a line sync a 3 or 6 dB mid-morning and to take a snapshot at some time overnight when the margin will have dropped.
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I considered that but still think it's a large drop overnight even from 3 dB and particularly from 6 dB
1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 17 Meg Untweaked 19 Meg Tweaked WBC
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I have seen many vary by 5 dB and more even up to 7dB ... mine was about 5dB typically and occasionally 6dB.
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My normal 3 dB NM rarely goes below 2.3.
1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 17 Meg Untweaked 19 Meg Tweaked WBC
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NO disconnects I am aware of...
Doesn't feel faster in general web browsing- but downloads are much quicker...
Are you saying the SNR downstream is TOO low?
Will a higher one help?
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Parameters
DSP Firmware Version A2pB025f.d22k
DMT Status No Defect
Operational Mode ADSL2+
Upstream 1279
Downstream 19399
SNR Margin(Upstream) 7.4
SNR Margin(Downstream) 0.9
Line Attenuation(Upstream) 15.1
Line Attenuation(Downstream) 24.5
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Re-opening an old thread...
7800n died so got a 7800dxl
New numbers...
xDSL
xDSL
Mode ADSL_2plus
Traffic Type ATM
Status Up
Link Power State L0
Downstream Upstream
Line Coding (Trellis) On On
SNR Margin (dB) 15.9 6.2
Attenuation (dB) 26.5 17.1
Output Power (dBm) 0.0 12.6
Attainable Rate (Kbps) 23276 1180
Rate (Kbps) 6654 1175
MSGc (# of bytes in overhead channel message) 90 66
B (# of bytes in Mux Data Frame) 19 36
M (# of Mux Data Frames in FEC Data Frame) 1 1
T (Mux Data Frames over sync bytes) 7 1
R (# of check bytes in FEC Data Frame) 16 6
S (ratio of FEC over PMD Data Frame length) 0.0954 0.9800
L (# of bits in PMD Data Frame) 3016 351
D (interleaver depth) 511 32
Delay (msec) 12 8
INP (DMT symbol) 10.50 2.00
Super Frames 1255325 1134863
Super Frame Errors 470 0
RS Words 18736628 1825663
RS Correctable Errors 0 0
RS Uncorrectable Errors 0 0
HEC Errors 49 0
OCD Errors 0 0
LCD Errors 0 0
Total Cells 7020416 1228311
Data Cells 112455 256178
Bit Errors 0 0
Total ES 11 0
Total SES 11 0
Total UAS 77 77
thoughts?
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Downstream Upstream
Line Coding (Trellis) On On
SNR Margin (dB) 4.1 6.7
Attenuation (dB) 22.0 13.8
Output Power (dBm) 0.0 12.6
Attainable Rate (Kbps) 21536 1136
Rate (Kbps) 18646 1137
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xDSL
xDSL
Mode ADSL_2plus
Traffic Type ATM
Status Up
Link Power State L0
Downstream Upstream
Line Coding (Trellis) On On
SNR Margin (dB) 22.1 7.6
Attenuation (dB) 21.5 13.8
Output Power (dBm) 0.0 12.6
Attainable Rate (Kbps) 23044 1328
Rate (Kbps) 4542 1276
MSGc (# of bytes in overhead channel message) 90 45
B (# of bytes in Mux Data Frame) 15 55
M (# of Mux Data Frames in FEC Data Frame) 1 1
T (Mux Data Frames over sync bytes) 6 1
R (# of check bytes in FEC Data Frame) 16 0
S (ratio of FEC over PMD Data Frame length) 0.1115 1.3784
L (# of bits in PMD Data Frame) 2295 325
D (interleaver depth) 511 1
Delay (msec) 14 0
INP (DMT symbol) 14.00 0.00
Super Frames 1588196 1435748
Super Frame Errors 489 8
RS Words 189328374 2430089
RS Correctable Errors 2445 0
RS Uncorrectable Errors 0 0
HEC Errors 37 5
OCD Errors 0 0
LCD Errors 0 0
Total Cells 56560696 15862466
Data Cells 1160521 221245
Bit Errors 0 250
Total ES 11 5
Total SES 11 0
Total UAS 46 46
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So what did you turn on at about 7:30 this morning?
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Nothing new...
PC always on
As are iPad/iPhone...
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Your down NM, 22 dB, is too high and so is damping your speed. Yet last week it was reasonable, 4 dB, and giving you a good speed. What changed in between?
1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Edited by XRaySpeX (Wed 27-Aug-14 13:38:12)
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No idea...
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He had a re-sync at 7:30. That's why I asked what was switched on  .
Edit - Drat ! I saw Tues >> Wed and didn't notice the date gap.
I wonder when the slowness started. /Edit.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Edited by RobertoS (Wed 27-Aug-14 14:13:00)
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Not just internet stuff .
TV, heating, microwave, bedside light, razor, anything at all in the property. Almost certainly turned off by the time you took the stats.
When did you notice the slowdown?
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Edited by RobertoS (Wed 27-Aug-14 14:14:14)
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Saw it when I sat down to use it - I always check speeds as it was terrible last year...
Was 16Mb last week - no new equipment in the house...
4.5Mb now...
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I saw nowt about 7:30 AM.
Yes I 1st read preceding stats as yesterday and then edited to last week,
1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
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I saw nowt about 7:30 AM. From the BQM link in his sig.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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It doesn't need to be new equipment. All sorts of things can cause this sort of problem. A dodgy fluorescent light starter, a running machine in your next-door neighbour's bedroom, anything electrical close enough to cause interference. By the sound of things not frequently used. A particular place like a garage light. A spare bedroom that never has the light switched on ... but did.
You had a reconnection as I said, at a time of high possibly local noise. Though it could be external. You need to find out what caused that noise.
As it is, a power-cycle of the Billion ought to fix things for now.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Allergy information: This post was manufactured in an environment where nuts are present. It may include traces of understatement, litotes and humour.
Edited by RobertoS (Wed 27-Aug-14 16:47:09)
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Oh, I ignored the sig as all the rest of it is OOD.
1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
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