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Standard User JB68
(regular) Tue 05-Aug-14 12:28:07
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HG612 Firewall


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Hi,

I am currently using HG612 (unlocked) and a Asus AC66-u router.

I currently have the firewall on - on the Acus Router.

My Firewall is off on the hg612, is their any need to put in on?

Does it conflict with the Router Firewall, tried searching for answers but no luck.
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(deleted) Tue 05-Aug-14 17:54:49
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Is your HG612 management console accessible from the Internet?
Standard User JB68
(regular) Tue 05-Aug-14 19:22:38
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Hi,

How would I test that,


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(deleted) Tue 05-Aug-14 19:25:36
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Use another connection on your phone or BT Wifi and see if you can see the management console on your external IP address
Standard User JB68
(regular) Tue 05-Aug-14 19:35:29
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Ok, what port do i need to use?
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(deleted) Tue 05-Aug-14 20:30:53
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It's http so 80, which is the default.
Standard User JB68
(regular) Tue 05-Aug-14 20:39:11
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
It's http so 80, which is the default.


tried that on local but connects to my router, how would i try to connect to modem
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(deleted) Tue 05-Aug-14 20:41:53
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You can't do it local, you have to use an external connection like 3G on a phone or log on to BT Wifi, or pop round your neighbours and then try.
Standard User JB68
(regular) Tue 05-Aug-14 21:12:23
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yeah i know, but i dont know how to get it externally when my router is also on port 80, what do i put in the url

http://myip and what else
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(deleted) Tue 05-Aug-14 21:18:40
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My Firewall is off on the hg612, is their any need to put in on?


No. Don't mess with any settings on the modem. It's not accessible from the Internet because the Point-to-Point connection is done on the router. Just pretend the modem doesn't exist.
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(deleted) Tue 05-Aug-14 21:22:45
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yeah i know, but i dont know how to get it externally when my router is also on port 80, what do i put in the url

http://myip and what else
Sorry, you can't do it from your own network, you must be on another network - not yours. You must be outside, in a library, in an internet cafe, in Starbucks, round your neighbours, somewhere other than in your house on your network.
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(deleted) Tue 05-Aug-14 21:23:45
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Or use a VPN perhaps
Standard User JB68
(regular) Tue 05-Aug-14 21:29:44
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In reply to a post by JB68:
yeah i know, but i dont know how to get it externally when my router is also on port 80, what do i put in the url

http://myip and what else
Sorry, you can't do it from your own network, you must be on another network - not yours. You must be outside, in a library, in an internet cafe, in Starbucks, round your neighbours, somewhere other than in your house on your network.


yeah i know :/, i will use 3G, but im confused what to type into the url
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(deleted) Tue 05-Aug-14 21:38:10
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Just http://your.ip.address
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(deleted) Tue 05-Aug-14 21:40:30
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You can find your.ip.address here http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ip.html
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(deleted) Wed 06-Aug-14 07:40:03
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Nothing, it's not possible to do this.

Your modem doesn't have an external IP address. Your router has the IP address because that's what is making the connection to your ISP.

As i said before, pretend the modem doesn't exist.
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(deleted) Wed 06-Aug-14 19:14:29
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Nothing, it's not possible to do this.

Your modem doesn't have an external IP address. Your router has the IP address because that's what is making the connection to your ISP.

As i said before, pretend the modem doesn't exist.


The OP stated they were using an Unlocked HG612 Modem. Which implies it would have an external IP Address.

I wouldn't have thought you'd need to worry though OP. The Unlocked Firmware usually has this enabled by default. But do bear in mind you are probably double NAT'ing which can cause a few quirky issues.
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(deleted) Wed 06-Aug-14 19:18:19
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It doesn't hurt to test it.
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(deleted) Wed 06-Aug-14 21:02:16
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The OP stated they were using an Unlocked HG612 Modem. Which implies it would have an external IP Address.


Not unless he's switched the modem into router mode and is doing the PPP connection on the modem.

Unlocking a modem by default only gives access to the web interface using a private address on the LAN side of the modem.

I don't know, maybe i'm not explaining things well so i'll try again.

Imagine a really wide pipe. One end is the LAN port on your modem and the other end is the equipment in the fibre cabinet. This big pipe is not connected to the Internet, it goes nowhere near it, it's just a way of providing a path.

Inside the big pipe is a narrower pipe. It extends beyond the big pipe at both ends. One end is connected to the WAN port on your router, the other end is connected to your ISP. It also has no connection to the Internet and just provides a path between your router and ISP.

Inside the small pipe is a cable. It extends slightly beyond the small pipe. One end is attached to a PPP client running on the WAN port of your router and the other end is attached to a PPP server running on a machine at your ISP. Each end of the cable has a global IP and it is this that provides your Internet connection. The big and small pipes are just ways of getting the cable from one end to the other.

This is very simplified but hopefully it'll help the OP understand why this is not an issue at all and that they shouldn't mess around with the settings in the modem. If you've unlocked your modem just use it for stat gathering and don't mess with anything else.

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