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Hi, couldn't decide which forum to go to so stuck it here 
I'm going to run an extension from the MK3 faceplate (the internal IDC connectors) to a box 5 or so metres away as the master socket is on the front wall of the house at the furthest possible corner...Want to get the modem/router closer in to the house for a more favourable positioning (which would NOT be a problem if BT still provided the huawei modems and routers that can actually connect to them...stuck with dealing with a home hub 6 or whatever it's called now )
Anyways, firstly would I be better using CAT5e or CW1308 for it? It'll be passing along a wall going through 8 or so power leads although I don't know how much difference that makes.
...Also any idea where to get a decent RJ11 faceplate and back box for it? Not that I intend to mount it to a wall, just want to make it tidy. Although I might have an ancient extension from 2002 that BT gave me when I signed up for ADSL before the self install/micro filter era...don't know if I want to use that though for FTTC since it is pretty old...
THanks
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Cat5e and if you can get it, just 2 pair.
There are plenty of RJ45 faceplates or modules around however finding someone who stocks RJ11/14/25 6 way version may not be easy. You can use an RJ45 socket as the RJ series are designed such that 6P/xC plug will fit an 8P socket.
I prefer to use Krone original RJ-K series as they are well made and look nice.
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Try not to run the Cat5 parallel and close to power cables. Crossing them at right angles is best.
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The power cables could present an issue. I would say avoid them wherever possible even if it means the cabling being longer / going a different route.
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Thanks any recommendations on where to get it?
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Unfortunately I have little to no choice with where I can route it...I suppose STP could be an option... Or buying a modem on eBay and getting a cheap tp link router fort it...
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Yes, if you want 305 metres! However with delivery that is not really feasible! Try your local electrical wholesalers - some sell cable by the metre. If not you can use 4pair - which is larger in diameter and harder to hide.
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Cough 305m may be a tad excessive.
What about the rj11/45 boxes? I've had a look around but can't find owt that looks decent decent
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I would use an MK back box, MK modular faceplate and then add a Krone RJ-K outlet and Mounting frame in the 45 degree option. Do a search for Krone RJ-K and you should find a stockist.
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Yeah this is a pain, every time I search for 2 pair Cat 5 it gives me CW1308 in the results
Makes me wonder if something like this might be better...hmm...
Found https://www.amazon.co.uk/LINDY-Surface-Pattress-Sing... and https://www.amazon.co.uk/LINDY-Single-Shuttered-Sock... though, I like Lindy stuff...
or http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rj-socket-modules-blan...
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That cable is almost certainly a patch lead type and not really what you want.
The patress price is a rip-off.
Depending on which sockets you go for you might get away with a 16mm: http://www.screwfix.com/p/mk-1-gang-surface-pattress... or if that is too shallow a 30mm http://www.screwfix.com/p/mk-1-gang-surface-pattress...
The modular face plate: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MKK0181.html MK k181
And then find a suitable module to insert - the RS one is fine, albeit straight out rather than 45 degree and they also do an RJ11 version.. If you get to a local electrical wholesaler, you will get similar prices and they will have a module to insert - that is the easiest way.
If you like Lindy, they will do the job however I am not a fan of theirs.
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I just found this actually
CW1724, RJ11 connector/faceplate/back box...[censored] connector that I don't need since I have a krone-type punchdown tool...
looks good to me?
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That will do the job.
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That looks a good choice. I've had quite a few orders from run-IT-direct and they've always delivered quickly.
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for 20 quid I hope so 
It's the closest thing to 2 pair Cat5 I can find and it's all in one...it probably is BT cable, too, they always seem to have official BT kit...
Ta
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Super, ta
Always good to have a testimonial for a web shop
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FWIW, I've recently installed a data extension using about 10m of Cat 5e and there was no measurable drop in speed.
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Right well installed that extension today, couldnt avoid some 90 degree corners due to wall around a bay window (the opposite way to the way you'd normally want a bend, too) but it's installed neatly and ADSL2+ stats are the same as they were before so...I think that's a good sign. And it doesnt disconnect when the phone rings which is also a good sign 
When I took the master socket off to get the cable in (which also needed a tight bend, sigh) I noticed the phone line into the master socket is aluminium. sigh again, nothing I can do about that though.
Anyways, roll on FTTC activation to see if my newly run extension actually works properly! Maybe...
On a side note, yes the cable was twisted the same as cat5e, I don't know if it is actually BT cable or not though as it's unmarked but hey ho
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The phone line is aluminium? Is this from an overhead pole or underground?
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A pole from 20 odd years ago...well, between 20 and 25...if not more, I don't really remember
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So you're saying your drop wire is Aluminium...?
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Stats the same and no disconnect - yes a good sign you have done it correctly.
Probably is BT cable - they actually own their own cable manufacturer as well as buying in.
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Well I mean I don't know if it's BT cable or not since I bought it from run it direct with 3rd party boxes/termination points etc...the official one BT had had an RJ11 on the end, too.
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Ah
Well....
From the pole to the house is now copper since it recently got changed due to tree damage (went from 2 pair drop to 4 pair and noticed stats decrease on the other phone line which is FTTC enabled...sigh.)
Anyways, I checked the old drop wire and sure enough it's aluminium inside. So now it's pole -> house copper and then a joint box to connect it to the old aluminium drop wire which carries on to the socket.
And before anybody thinks it I'm not getting it confused with the steel strengthening wires
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I have read posts on another forum from a BT employee who frequently states that no drop wires from pole to property are aluminium, so it is very unlikely that your incoming connection is that material unless you have an external junction box and your incoming cable is different..
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How did you identify it as aluminium? Do you fancy posting some pictures of it?
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Look/feel really.
It's silver coloured and very soft, certainly not copper since after several years of doing copper runs for networks including phones I've learned to identify that
Can't get any pics at the moment since I've closed up the socket and people are using it and getting annoyed at me for the net being down :|
Also doubt it's steel since it shows no signs of magnetism that I've observed with copper clad steel and whatnot.
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