Using the ISP supplied router if you want to use that ISP voice service. That clarification make it clearer

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Using the ISP supplied router if you want to use that ISP voice service. That clarification make it clearer

I understand the point that you are making. What I don't understand is why the ISPs would want to stop customers using their own equipment, as it would stop the ISPs getting the call cost revenue.

I ported my BT originating number to Virgin Media some time ago now. Then, last year, I ported it from VM to Sipgate both were trouble free.

I have two analogue phones, one down stairs and one upstairs. When I ported the number to sipgate I purchased a Cisco SPA112 which connects to the router via an ethernet port and has two sockets for the analogue phones. It works a treat.

In the event of power or broadband outage I can either configure my mobile to work with sipgate, use a voip app or just setup call forwarding on my sipgate account.

So they can see what you are doing...

A) Person uses ISP supplied router and voice service ISP gets incremental call revenue
B) Person uses their own router and sources their own voice service or not bother with voice and ISP gets no additional revenue

Am I missing something?

My current set up is a BT PSTN line via a faceplate filter to a number of BT sockets with four phones connected (they are 'ring' well). I have a Cisco SPA112 connected to my Draytek Vigor 2762ac Modem/Router which feed two phones, one is a Delta 700 which has two incoming lines - one the BT line, the other the DrayTEL VoIP line. Again both phones work well.

I have a small UPS which currently is not connected to either, I must do something about that!

Until last year, I had the Modem/Router, VoIP adapter and some other gear in our attic space. It used to run hot and over a few years had to replace the Modem a couple of times. Then last year suffered damage to the modem and VoIP adapter during a thunderstorm - luckily not a direct hit; likely induced current due out phone service being overhead. Decided to re-locate this gear in our garage and had a new dropwire installed.

Recently a friend on the same exchange, but different cabinet heard from BT that his ADSL was being upgraded to FTTC and was sent a new hub. This then started me thinking re Openreaches plans for PSTN switch off. The underground wiring around here goes back to the 1950s, some houses still have the brackets for the two-wire overhead lines with the large insulators. Unfortunately much of the underground is aluminium which currently is only giving me about 25 Mbits follollowing I guess new connections, used to get around 36 Mbits originally - cabinet about 500 metres away.

FTTP would be good!

Cheers!

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

A) Person uses ISP supplied router and voice service ISP gets incremental call revenue
B) Person uses their own router and sources their own voice service or not bother with voice and ISP gets no additional revenue

Am I missing something?

ISPS let people use their own routers. Why would an ISP want to stop these people from using the ISPs VOIP service?

Why would an ISP want to stop these people from using the ISPs VOIP service?

Because the ISP sees those people as a small fraction of their customer base, and supporting them with hardware only needed for that small number of customers adds cost.

Small ISP will view this differently and likely to share SIP details so you can use your own hardware, but then you will be on your own support wise.

For those that dont want or have an internet connection a mobile would be easier surely? You can get a cheap phone that just does the basics, and get unlimited texts and calls for less than the cost of line rental a month

Edited by bobble_bob (Mon 23-Mar-20 17:27:49)