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Standard User aquilla
(knowledge is power) Sat 24-Jun-23 22:29:36
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Quick Extension Cabling Question


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Evening,

Real quick question about extension cabling. I'm doing some work for my parents and need to install an extension socket (no big deal). I have a spool of CW1724 cable which I understand is basically 2 pair CAT5e cable..

The extension run is about 45ft and the router (VDSL 80/20Mbps) will be plugged into the extension.

Question: Is there any benefit to using the orange pair in the CW1724 cable (which has tighter twists) over the blue pair to connect the extension to the master socket?

Thanks,

Regards,

Current ISP: Zen (Fibre 1)
Previous ISP: BT, Sky LLU, Xilo (via Be LLU) , Zen (for 9 years).
Standard User Michael_Chare
(knowledge is power) Sat 24-Jun-23 23:30:40
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Re: Quick Extension Cabling Question


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Are you wanting to install an extension phone socket for BT 431A plug or an extension RJ45 socket?

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sun 25-Jun-23 00:19:51
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Re: Quick Extension Cabling Question


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Why not experiement ... Try it with the Orange pair, record line stats, attenuation, SNR &c up and down, then try with the Blue pair.

My gues would be there will e some minor differences, but which will be better - no idea.


And yes, CW1724 is Cat5e - you can get 2 & 4 pair versions.


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Standard User derby13
(member) Sun 25-Jun-23 10:52:59
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Re: Quick Extension Cabling Question


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I doubt there would be any noticeable difference. The reason behind the different number of twists between pairs is to reduce crosstalk but if you're only using one pair then there wouldn't be any. But I'd be interested to see the stats for both.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 25-Jun-23 13:08:05
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Re: Quick Extension Cabling Question


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In case you weren’t aware …

fitting an extension from the extension terminals within the NTE will create an issue known as a bridge tap, this will cause varying degrees of FEC errors, and will usually cause DLM to intervene … intermittent sync loss and speed caps.

Standard User Realalemadrid
(experienced) Sun 25-Jun-23 14:11:41
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If the router is at the far end of the extension as the OP has stated it would not be a bridge tap, just a slightly longer incoming line.

@aquilla You need to use the unfiltered extension terminals if have the NTE5C master socket.
A filtered phone extension will not have any Broadband signal on it.frown
Standard User jpm
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 25-Jun-23 14:19:36
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I wouldn't be putting labour into installing phone cable at this point, run an actual Cat5e or Cat6 cable and just use one pair for now, then in the future you can change the ends if you need data.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sun 25-Jun-23 14:21:50
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CW1724 is Cat5e


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Standard User jpm
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 25-Jun-23 14:25:15
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Not very helpful when it only has two pairs in
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sun 25-Jun-23 14:31:24
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Cat5e can have 2 pairs, 4 pairs or lots more.


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