That's what I mean, the people who use a landline and have corded handsets dotted around the house plugged into extensions must be miniscule. I would bet that within the minority of people who use a landline phone, those who don't have a DECT system are an even smaller minority.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

a lot of people will get rid of the home phone, I think, the only reason most people have one is that it was available

I think it was Ofcom that reported the number of phone calls made on "land lines" is less than a quarter of what it was 10 years ago. Many many calls have been replaced by other means (e.g. email) that even in corporate business where we used to have a phone on every desk that has gone.

However it's worth noting that telephone extention wiring kits have continued to be a staple item in DIY stores over recent years, which suggests there's been some demand.

Probably so they can/could put the modem somewhere else than the insanely stupid places even many new builds put them.

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Should there be a new NTE faceplate for BT Digital-Voice to connect any digital voice equipment to your home wiring instead of the previous analogue wiring?

Nope, phones will die. You should be grateful that routers are even including a socket for these old phones, they are a thing of the past and belong in the bin.

and what about all of te alarm systems that use them connectivity? They work over VoIP but still need a physical connection.

There was talk years ago of new faceplates but nobody seemed to ever see one and they seemingly faded away before appearing.

Its often the most vulnerable who still rely on an old fashioned telephone which is extremely easy to use compared to a dect handset. Both technically and physically.

That said if you are with a BT isp the digital voice adapters provide wireless extension sockets and are quite reasonably priced. They are really quite a good idea to transform a traditional telephone into a modern dect one. Unfortunately they are a proprietary closed standard that only works with BT routers... So hard luck if you change isp. It is weirdly hard to find a generic telephone to dect adapter.

Otherwise buy a master socket from screwfix for £5 and put it next to your master socket, move the extension wires across and connect to your router.

Or rip out the master telephone line from your existing master socket, wrap the ends in insulating tape and hide in the wall. But you are not really meant to do that.

Happily the only time I have had to face this so far the extensions were not hardwired which made it easy. My tip for that is to look for an old microfilter with a capacitor in it as without the master socket you need the capacitor to make some telephones ring.

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No, because digital voice will be from your router. If you are on FTTC, then your router will still connect as it always have the phone will just connect to the router, For fibre then you will have the ONT and your router connected to that and then your phone will be connected to your router, I presume unless it is connected directly to the ONT.
Not need for a new NTE faceplate. I want to get rid of mine to be honest if I can.

Yes because (presumably??) much of what a current master socket does s no longer needed when the analogue service is shut down. The incoming copper connects to the modem, and that does the work of creating the ability to use an analogue phone over VoIP.

So there must surely be the potential (even if the DGAS about customers morons at BT don't do it) for something a tad less intrusive than anNTE5 +ADSL faceplate?

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In reply to a post by zyborg47:

No, because digital voice will be from your router. If you are on FTTC, then your router will still connect as it always have the phone will just connect to the router, For fibre then you will have the ONT and your router connected to that and then your phone will be connected to your router, I presume unless it is connected directly to the ONT.
Not need for a new NTE faceplate. I want to get rid of mine to be honest if I can.

Yes because (presumably??) much of what a current master socket does s no longer needed when the analogue service is shut down. The incoming copper connects to the modem, and that does the work of creating the ability to use an analogue phone over VoIP.

So there must surely be the potential (even if the DGAS about customers morons at BT don't do it) for something a tad less intrusive than anNTE5 +ADSL faceplate?

Yes, just an RJ11 socket, with a surge arrester inside it.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/mk-base-rj11-telephone-da...

A bit like most of the rest of the world have been using for yonks

You still need a demarcation point, i.e. somewhere to plug the copper uplink for the router, and you still need the surge arrester that's in the master box.

A replacement for pure digital copper services without a splitter and phone jack would be only marginally thinner.

OR could develop such a thing, but the target is for 85% of us to have FTTP available by Dec 2026 anyway, so it's not really worth it.

I suspect it could be quite a lot thinner. It wouldn't need an internal BS 6312 plug and socket to connect two halves together, for example.

The reason I'm interested is that I currently have an NTE5+ADSL front plate fixed to a small enclosure with connectors in it from which extension sockets are wired.

I need to move the master socket to somewhere else, & I was going to change the enclosure at the same time, and it would be nice to have something smaller than the existing master.