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Standard User RR_The_IT_Guy
(newbie) Wed 24-Mar-21 22:45:53
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Yeah as i said I am not using that currently and don't intend to as yet and first would probably use 255.255.0.0 however when symmetric FTTP is available that will have to change as I will be using my multisite VPN to connect international networks together each containing large amounts of devices, my current network does use three VLans one for VOIP, IPTV, Internet (General use).

I currently have 40+ Devices 30 with static IP's

various web servers and more.

The idea of the Multisite VPN is partly for access to the NAS for offsite backups (12TB worth) on my site but also so the servers can be accessed in real time and all interlinked without the need for synchronisation and multiple lower spec NAS drives at each site and have two identical powerful nas drives instead.

I do currently have a VPN server however internet speeds are causing issues for obvious reasons with a 10 meg upload on VM.

The subnet mask would be used in a way so there are different ranges at each site, so my site would be 10.0.5.1 - 10.0.10.254 and each site with a few thousand IP addresses mainly so if i expand from a 256 + I have some space.
in the range of 10.0.0.1-10.0.0.4.254 would be static IP's I am aware of the massive ranges which is why i used that subnet as an example and not reality as it would be insane for my use. Even a 255.255.0.0 is easily sufficient.


My current subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 so 10.0.0.1 - 10.0.0.254 I have allocated however I am using the first 30 for static IP's so they are not available to the DHCP server.

Overall this is all for personal use and not business however my family have calculated that its cheaper to have one shared network for data storage that I can manage each user with a quote and restrictions instead of all having individual storage solutions overall costing more long term. One of the sites already has gigabit symmetric at €20 a month so the other sites are nearly ready for installation however two sites only have VDSL and VM while a third has VDSL but only has one device so would be a simple migration.
The only site with no fibre is in the processing of being fitted by myself and a team of three as the SFR fibre team refused to install as there was a tree in the duct so they just left a trailer with fibre at the house as its a few hundred metres up the driveway to the house and said do it yourself and call us once its been run and we will connect it, only if openreach did that we would have so many issues sorted quicker if they don't do it they can't see its been run in next doors duct for example to avoid unblock one.
I am now waiting for international travel to be allowed again as i technically go to the site for a holiday not that i don't stop digging each time.

The reasons i stated in regards to data storage are not the only reasons I would like to use a network of this description, ultimately it brings simplicity for when there is an issue so I can just connect via remote desktop instead of having to go to the site to make changes.

I have only done a brief overview as I don't feel like going to deep into the details but its basically to make life easier for me who ends up going places to fix issues instead of having full remote access.

I know that the VOIP features would be great as they would mean that calling those in europe not via facetime for example would cost local rates as i could set up a VLAN with a french Line at local rate calls so free with the call plans and the same could apply to those calling the UK. Its basically a way of cutting telephone costs as we could all potentially get one VOIP provider in the UK and have virtual numbers ported and the french numbers could stay the way they currently are which is functional.

I know this is a little bit of work but until i get some FTTP none of this can happen as VM is not at all good and A tiny upload speed for this use will be sucked up in a heartbeat.

Hope this does help a little.

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Standard User RR_The_IT_Guy
(newbie) Wed 24-Mar-21 23:06:23
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Re: Virgin Media M100 Area Slow


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Believe it or not I am the only person when we had coursework who was known for overcomplicating and easily getting the highest grade (i am not trying to sound smug or anything I am just saying was was said to me), I do specialise in system security however try to avoid this here, however Subnets are an area I do know about that's why I use the 10.0.0.1-254 currently, so if needed i can expand without losing all my static IP's which i would if i used the 192.168.0.1-254.

Obviously i won't use that subnet it was purely an example, it would be a bit crazy to use that subnet i mean i would probably use 255.255.0.0 for the reason i stated earlier (multisite VPN) so i could allocate around 5000 / 10000 addresses for each location even if it is overkill right now, its more because i know that one of the locations can take 5000 users easily when there are events in the garden over the WiFI System.

I would ultimately calculate in advance what subnet i need based on how i would allocate the IP ranges and how large those ranges need to be for the next 20 years based on the amount of devices currently connected, which considering my network has 40 devices always connected and I only really actually use 4 of those devices daily there is a lot of other devices such as IOT devices (light bulbs, smart speakers, and more).

I know my network is currently under light load with what i put on it as i really don't use much or have many things connected, i am a light user in my area and only use 40 gigs a day on average, I know before covid with guests on the separate guest network things got to the point where i would be debating if i should turn it off as my internet connection of 100MBps could not handle it even with my proxy server cache.

I hope that explains a lot

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Standard User RR_The_IT_Guy
(learned) Thu 25-Mar-21 17:54:37
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I just felt i needed to clarify what i said about subnets earlier the examples i gave of 255.0.0.0, 255.255.0.0 are purely examples that i could think off as i had not calculated requirements, i used those subnets in my example as i was familiar with an organisation that uses those for the same reasons I would want to, so just nicked the example, but i did so to explain and give the concept of what i meant and not at all what i would do.
I apologize if i did not state this and feel deeply embarrassed by my lack of clarity and hope I can be forgiven for this and I will try and clarify in the future to avoid this type of situation I am not an expert in subnet masks as I know you all know hence why my example was so bad as i am more focused on other areas of IT generally, Sorry frown

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Standard User broadband66
(knowledge is power) Thu 25-Mar-21 17:59:56
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"I'm not going to lie"

You lied about a cheaper connection in a different country.

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Standard User RR_The_IT_Guy
(learned) Thu 25-Mar-21 18:05:15
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I want to tell you I told them that in the process I actually stated that to the woman and she was like ok i understand. I made it clear but i could hardly hear here so I hope she understood because i never want to be unclear I did say "at my other address which also has cable" which i did have cable at at the time.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 25-Mar-21 21:05:34
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In reply to a post by broadband66:
"I'm not going to lie"

You lied about a cheaper connection in a different country.
I'm beginning to think the whole thread is a wind-up. It doesn't make sense for a domestic connection. Or even a small business using one.

Look at (dotted around in his posts):

*********************
- my VM router is now having issues and signal levels are also out of spec;

- my samknows whitebox ;

- 40 devices on the network, switches, access points, router, printers, pcs, lights, the list is endless;

- however when symmetric FTTP is available that will have to change as I will be using my multisite VPN to connect international networks together each containing large amounts of devices, my current network does use three VLans one for VOIP, IPTV, Internet (General use) / I currently have 40+ Devices 30 with static IP's / various web servers and more;

- The idea of the Multisite VPN is partly for access to the NAS for offsite backups (12TB worth) on my site;

- Overall this is all for personal use and not business / my family have calculated that its cheaper to have one shared network for data storage that I can manage each user with a quote and restrictions instead of all having individual storage solutions overall costing more long term;

- Subnets are an area I do know about / I am not an expert in subnet masks;

- i know that one of the locations can take 5000 users easily when there are events in the garden over the WiFI System;

- my network has 40 devices always connected and I only really actually use 4 of those devices daily there is a lot of other devices such as IOT devices (light bulbs, smart speakers, and more);

- I know my network is currently under light load with what i put on it as i really don't use much or have many things connected, i am a light user in my area and only use 40 gigs a day on average / I know before covid with guests on the separate guest network things got to the point where i would be debating if i should turn it off as my internet connection of 100MBps could not handle it even with my proxy server cache;

- i used those subnets in my example as i was familiar with an organisation that uses those for the same reasons I would want to, so just nicked the example.

**********************

He's having a laugh, surely?
Do you think if i say the router is hissing (which it does under load) and making weird noises and keeps freezing randomly they will listen?

I know they listened the first time when my Hub 3 caught fire ...
Not exactly surprising the router blew up. As for:
I would ultimately calculate in advance what subnet i need based on how i would allocate the IP ranges and how large those ranges need to be for the next 20 years based on the amount of devices currently connected
that is utter garbage.

Quite apart from not previously saying that lot of his posting is about catering for the future, if he doesn't realise the changes in technology and usage patterns from 2021 to 2041 will be far greater than the changes from 2001 to today he isn't thinking very effectively. Even the last 12 months has seen a vast increase in online meetings; ditching of office space and loss of retail shopping centres and even malls.

Plus! IPv6 will alter everything he's doing or planning. Never mind the rise and fall of the sites and businesses he is supposedly dealing with.

Finally:
Yeah as i said I am not using that currently and don't intend to as yet and first would probably use 255.255.0.0 however when symmetric FTTP is available that will have to change as I will be using my multisite VPN to connect international networks together ...
Symmetrical FTTP is not offered (at least at the moment) by Openreach. They do provide symmetrical fibre connections called leased lines, very different. I'm sure BT Group would install one with alacrity. He seems not to realise that his promised "full fibre" FTTP is not symmetrical.

In short, does he understand anything about what he is posting about? Or is it all made up! Fiction.

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Standard User Pheasant
(experienced) Thu 25-Mar-21 21:39:53
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The whole thread or all the posts everywhere on the forum the last few days. The chap has been errr....prolific 😎

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 25-Mar-21 21:57:43
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LOL
I hadn't been keeping up with the Fibre forum, but have just read his first post in the Virgin Media v BT. Two things struck me!

One, his complaint that "... with VM M100 and getting 100 is like the probability of getting signal in a nuclear bunker". I'm sure very good signals are received in nuclear bunkers.

Second, and more seriously, 'Customer service with VM is "like trying to ride a horse on a freeway" '. What country is he from? We don't have freeways.

The rest of that Topic can wait!

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Standard User RR_The_IT_Guy
(learned) Thu 25-Mar-21 22:56:23
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He's having a laugh, surely?


I'm sorry to say
i know that one of the locations can take 5000 users easily when there are events in the garden over the WiFI System;
is true and has been done over a gigabit connection in the estate but as I did say this was done in france where I do have symmetric FTTP.

I did also want to clarify that the data storage is an actual thing I do have large amounts of raw storage to backup data stored in france at the moment its simply unsustainable to keep this solution operational with the speeds I have.

Overall this is all for personal use and not business / my family have calculated that its cheaper to have one shared network for data storage that I can manage each user with a quote and restrictions instead of all having individual storage solutions overall costing more long term;


I meant this compared to using Onedrive or cloud storage which has higher costs long term.
It is simply not sustainable to use tiny amounts of cloud storage when we have TB's of photos, films, documents and video editing files stored.


I know my network is currently under light load with what i put on it as i really don't use much or have many things connected, i am a light user in my area and only use 40 gigs a day on average / I know before covid with guests on the separate guest network things got to the point where i would be debating if i should turn it off as my internet connection of 100MBps could not handle it even with my proxy server cache;


What i meant by this was that virgin media said "you are a light user compared to the rest of your street" they told me i am the person who uses the least bandwidth out of 54 people who are currently connected so I don't know how much they download? I was stating what i was told.


Symmetrical FTTP is not offered (at least at the moment) by Openreach. They do provide symmetrical fibre connections called leased lines, very different. I'm sure BT Group would install one with alacrity. He seems not to realise that his promised "full fibre" FTTP is not symmetrical.


It's my understanding that Openreach are triling this in various areas at the moment Trials

I was told by the guy in my exchange when i went six months ago that SNO exchange is capable of it its more if they decide to offer it or not at the moment instead of anything else and no I did not record the conversation as i feel doing that will stop people talking.

I'm not sure if i mentioned that CityFibre are also rolling out in St Neots, there are cityfibre cover plates i think they are called in the ground around the area.

Not exactly surprising the router blew up


This was before i used my own hardware, the router was being used normally only 254 clients could connect at most, however it was summer and I don't have AC and the room i keep the router in gets very hot with the NAS drives and network gear.

Never mind the rise and fall of the sites and businesses he is supposedly dealing with.


I can reassure you and tell you the only company I have dealt with will not go out of business they have a contract with EDF and Renault amongst others.


Quite apart from not previously saying that lot of his posting is about catering for the future, if he doesn't realise the changes in technology and usage patterns from 2021 to 2041 will be far greater than the changes from 2001 to today he isn't thinking very effectively. Even the last 12 months has seen a vast increase in online meetings; ditching of office space and loss of retail shopping centres and even malls.

I want to reassure you that I know the patterns and have been analysing data I know that the E-Commerce i do things for can handle everything network wise currently as the business is expanding to multiple sites where there is currently only PC VPN's to the windows server.


Plus! IPv6 will alter everything he's doing or plannin


I am aware of that which is why I am not doing any of this yet and there is no point in me working on IPv6 right now as the web hosting team hosts the site in IPv6 and IPv4 offsite to avoid that for now.

There is just a local copy of the site that updates to the offsite host every time there is a change made.
The same applies the other way for orders and the database.

I want to reassure you that safety is my number one priority over all other issues which is why the web hosting is handle by an external organisation so all responsibility is there's. While all internal networks are handled by the team to ensure all security issues are dealt with I ensure that all the policies are in place by the team, I do this just to confirm it however this is not my role.

In short, does he understand anything about what he is posting about? Or is it all made up! Fiction.


I want to reassure you I understand and its not fiction I am just bad at explaining everything I can do it in practice its the theory that's not so good. The network i deal with has never had any external security threats and there have never been any data leaks in the last 10 years and before that was not online so cannot comment. The only potential threats we often have are phishing every day and an internal threat once every few years however these are dealt with as a matter of priority and urgency and the team do not tolerate it, to me its imperative you know that any confidential data you have on the systems I am part of are safe. There is regular external pen testing which has not ever found any issues that would compromise data integrity, confidentially or breach GDPR in any way.

I did state that I am general in IT mostly in security and networks are on the side and I deal with them on top of everything else i do so I don't feel like i should comment any more on security as i know there is not much more i can say without breaching the policies.

Networks are passed onto me when the last guy that touched them messed them up and caused havoc I feel considering I had to clear up a network with 20 4 port switches changing and installing multimode fibre optics between new replacement switches only 3 is quite a start to dealing with the network i had never even had the chance of management was great as i meant i could secure and enable new and more collaborative ways of working especially as i got the FTTP fitted myself as the fitters said the duct was blocked and was like do it yourself so i did they spliced it both ends and gave me a roll of fibre to run as it was a commercial instal.

I just want to apologize for not being clear I hope i'm clear here as I really can't help it, I can do whatever but writing about it is a whole different thing.

Sorry if I caused any offence through this thread it was totally unintended.

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Standard User RR_The_IT_Guy
(regular) Thu 25-Mar-21 23:02:40
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Hi I am from France but i live i am british.
I used those quotes from TV shows as they were the only thing i could think of where there was no signal my metaphors are bad I will stop using them.
I do understand how that might have confused you I watch a lot of american Crime Drams
"like trying to ride a horse on a freeway"
that's from NCIS to be exact Series 5 I think if i recall correctly.

Second, and more seriously, 'Customer service with VM is "like trying to ride a horse on a freeway" '. What country is he from? We don't have freeways.
That was the idea, virgin media's customer service is non existent hence that analogy if virgin media had customer service they would answer the phone.

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