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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 03-May-12 18:23:53
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STM just when you feel like it eh!?


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Standard User ukhardy07
(committed) Thu 03-May-12 18:48:36
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What's wrong with that?
Standard User kwikbreaks
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 03-May-12 19:46:58
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The evening STM on 100Mbps shouldn't kick in until 10 GB has been downloaded during the period.

It could be behaving like mine does on 10Mbps. I can hammer the guts out of it in the day (well as much hammering as 10Mbps can give it - several 10's of GB when the STM limit is about 3GB) and never get the STM applied but if I do so then come the evening slot it only takes a little bit of download and the STM kicks in. Why? No idea. Do I care no - my minimum sentence has been served and Infinity is coming my way soon. At least I hope it is.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 03-May-12 23:44:36
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Standard User kwikbreaks
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 04-May-12 07:48:25
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When I was on 50Mbps and the speeds were poor and all over the place I stabilised mine and saved money too - I downgraded to 10Mbps.
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(deleted) Fri 04-May-12 19:00:09
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Standard User Chrysalis
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 05-May-12 20:08:46
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In reply to a post by pcoventry76:
When I ask to do that I am told it's cheaper for me to stay on 100 then to go to 60

Im going to pay it off. I know it will be £180 but that's fine. My SDSL goes in on Monday so I may only have 2mbps but it will be all mine and I can finally break the chains on STM/Sharing a network!


SDSL will still be a contended product so congestion free is not a defenite. Whos your new isp?
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(deleted) Sat 05-May-12 20:38:46
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Standard User kwikbreaks
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 05-May-12 23:09:42
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Probably somebody on a 100Mbps cable connection flogging it on to 50 punters at £99 a pop smile
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 06-May-12 15:16:50
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Standard User kwikbreaks
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 06-May-12 23:30:27
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As you surely know most stuff on VM is busted so they probably just got lucky...
Standard User Chrysalis
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 07-May-12 01:29:45
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In reply to a post by pcoventry76:
It's 1:1 and it's Spitfire.

http://www.spitfire.co.uk/SDSL.shtml?headerbar=0

Back in the Dialup Days I used to rent a port for £99 a month which gave me 1:1 56k 24/7 connection,. I'd imagine as this runs off an ADSL line £99 a month is more than enough to give someone 2MB 1:1?


the price seems too low for 1:1 but I guess the market has changed.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 07-May-12 02:28:39
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 07-May-12 03:00:43
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AAISP charge £105 per month for uncontended 2mbps fibre (plus costs of fibre itself) and £255 per month for uncontended 10mbps, so the price seems reasonable.

A 1000mbps dedicated circuit is £13940 p/m putting the cost of 1mbps at about £13.94 or less for a medium to large scale ISP.
Standard User Chrysalis
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 07-May-12 07:50:51
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In reply to a post by qasdfdsaq:
AAISP charge £105 per month for uncontended 2mbps fibre (plus costs of fibre itself) and £255 per month for uncontended 10mbps, so the price seems reasonable.

A 1000mbps dedicated circuit is £13940 p/m putting the cost of 1mbps at about £13.94 or less for a medium to large scale ISP.


heavily location dependent tho.

try getting gigabit 1:1 to your house for 14k a month.
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(deleted) Mon 07-May-12 11:14:23
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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 07-May-12 12:13:17
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Tiscali no longer exists

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(deleted) Mon 07-May-12 12:34:36
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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 07-May-12 12:53:40
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BT WBC costs more per Mbps of backhaul than any of the LLU networks (£60 to 70 per Mbps to get it from exchange to a handover node - figures are indicative have not checked them)

If anything mentions Tiscali then they mean Opal as in the wholesale arm of the talktalk group

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 07-May-12 13:15:34
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 07-May-12 13:27:10
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In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
In reply to a post by qasdfdsaq:
AAISP charge £105 per month for uncontended 2mbps fibre (plus costs of fibre itself) and £255 per month for uncontended 10mbps, so the price seems reasonable.

A 1000mbps dedicated circuit is £13940 p/m putting the cost of 1mbps at about £13.94 or less for a medium to large scale ISP.


heavily location dependent tho.

try getting gigabit 1:1 to your house for 14k a month.

Those are the prices they quoted for my home postcode. Virgin Media also do a comparable service for far less money.

But that's not really relevant, I was trying to get an idea of wholesale bandwidth prices - and those levels suggest uncontended 2mbps SDSL is quite possible at £99 a month, when the ISP can obtain bandwidth at less than £25 per megabit to the exchange and then just has to rent the copper LLU line from Openreach for the region of £10 a month.
Standard User Zadeks
(experienced) Mon 07-May-12 14:33:39
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Why do you need SDSL?
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(deleted) Mon 07-May-12 15:39:17
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Standard User Zadeks
(experienced) Mon 07-May-12 15:41:56
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(deleted) Mon 07-May-12 17:16:19
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Standard User Zadeks
(experienced) Mon 07-May-12 17:17:28
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English please. This is a discussion forum.
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(deleted) Mon 07-May-12 19:21:49
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Standard User Zadeks
(experienced) Mon 07-May-12 19:25:52
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Your post doesn't make sense.
Standard User kwikbreaks
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 07-May-12 21:30:49
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In reply to a post by Zadeks:
Your post doesn't make sense.


I assumed a one letter typo

lol u need a more interesting life if you gonna nose about in other peoples

which makes sense of a sort
Standard User Chrysalis
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 07-May-12 22:00:32
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In reply to a post by qasdfdsaq:
In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
In reply to a post by qasdfdsaq:
AAISP charge £105 per month for uncontended 2mbps fibre (plus costs of fibre itself) and £255 per month for uncontended 10mbps, so the price seems reasonable.

A 1000mbps dedicated circuit is £13940 p/m putting the cost of 1mbps at about £13.94 or less for a medium to large scale ISP.


heavily location dependent tho.

try getting gigabit 1:1 to your house for 14k a month.

Those are the prices they quoted for my home postcode. Virgin Media also do a comparable service for far less money.

But that's not really relevant, I was trying to get an idea of wholesale bandwidth prices - and those levels suggest uncontended 2mbps SDSL is quite possible at £99 a month, when the ISP can obtain bandwidth at less than £25 per megabit to the exchange and then just has to rent the copper LLU line from Openreach for the region of £10 a month.


yeah I agree on the sdsl, I was comparing really to what a 2mbit leased line would cost.

I did get a quote to my house incidently not so long ago tho and I got quoted 26k a month for a 1:1 100mbit line. Or 9k for a 5:1 line. Along with a 5 figure install fee.
Standard User broadband66
(experienced) Tue 08-May-12 14:55:16
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Dodgy stuff, probably!

Was Eclipse Home Option 1 & VM 2Mb
Now O2 standard
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 08-May-12 15:40:45
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Standard User broadband66
(experienced) Wed 09-May-12 15:15:20
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Please, not the "I've got a life" again. Obviously YOU haven't as you are glued to your monitor for at least 26 hours a day.

I don't give a stuff what you download/upload but when you previously moaned about not being able to max out your connection you didn't seem to understand why.

Now that you're on the equivalent of a leased line you won't affect anyone else.

Enough said! So back to your cot.

Was Eclipse Home Option 1 & VM 2Mb
Now O2 standard

Edited by broadband66 (Wed 09-May-12 15:16:15)

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