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I am on the standard 60 MB package. I do not have a static IP address, but the address never changes as far as I can tell.
Is there anything that I can do to force a change?
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Since you now have two threads running on this topic , how about deleting one ?
Your IP address will change if you are offline for a while - I normally find that being away on holiday changes it
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If you're using the Super Hub as your router then there's nothing you can do other than leave the thing switched off for a few days as goldenoldie suggests. It's also probably not something VM will be able to do for you over the phone.
If you're using the Super Hub in modem only mode with your own router, then changing the MAC address of the router's WAN interface, if it allows you to do that, and restarting the Super Hub will get you a new IP address.
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Thanks both! I understand the situation.
I can't leave the connection off for a week, so I think I'll get a router and try the solution with modem mode.
Would you be able to recommend a cheap router that can do the job, has ethernet ports (min 3) but not necessarily wireless. Something that's widely available in the UK at something like PC World, Maplin or Currys.
Super grateful for advice to avoid buying something inappropriate or spending more money than necessary.
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Any cable router would do the trick. TP-Link probably offer the best value kit right now.
If you want to avoid spending more than you need to then give PC World/Currys and Maplin a miss as you'll be able to get a better price on anything they sell elsewhere online.
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That's an ADSL router and probably won't do the job.
Look for a "cable" router.
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Doesn't any router work off the initial modem?
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In short, no.
An ADSL router will expect to be connected to the phone line and the WAN side is via the internal ADSL modem.
A cable router will expect the WAN to be via an ethernet port, connected to a cable modem (or an FTTC modem or some other modem).
Some routers can be configured to work differently from the factory defaults, e.g. use one of the ethernet ports as WAN port ignoring the built-in ADSL modem, but why go through the effort? Plus I doubt the TP-Link ones are so configurable.
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Oh my mistake, I should have spotted that.
How about this then?
http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&q=cab...
I know it's a super budget version, but I don't actually need it. I just wantto reset the IP and £50 -£80 like the mid range ones cost is just silly for that...
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Be aware that the chances are that your superhub may get the same ip back when you switch back again if you do so too soon. If your pc has a firewall that you're happy with you could just connect that to the modem moded superhub to prove the concept.
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The IP address is tied to the MAC and will be reserved quite a while. Swapping back to Superhub router mode the same day will virtually certainly put you back on the old IP.
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You can have 2 IP addresses, the superhub can be fooled into using a different one when you swap between using it as a hub, and setting it to modem only with a linked router.
When I got my superhub I used it for a day or two as it came, with just my main computer connect via wire. I noticed that I lost the IP address I'd had for many months, but thought that was down to being changed up to a higher speed.
Then I reconnected the Belkin router I'd been using previously, simply because that was easier than re-setting 3 laptops, two mobile phones and a smart TV. Hey, amazing, I got my old IP address again when I put the superhub into modem only mode and it cloned the router MAC address.
I had a few problems and had to go back to connecting direct to the superhub so support could check my line. The IP address I had had was somehow showing as Bristol, the new IP address when connected direct showed Colchester when I looked at IP mapping. They were not even the same IP range.
Try it and see ?
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Apologise for jumping into thread and my ignorance.
Why would you wish to change IP?
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use it for a week then when you switch back you should have a new ip.
Although I am curious why you want to switch ip. Who you hiding from?
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Usually people ask this question because their IP has been blocked by a torrent site or forum. Try asking the OP instead of me....
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Why do you want to change IP?
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Since OP is not about I'll refer you to the other thread on the same topic - and that gave the reason 
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Figured that but I haven't ever had the opportunity to work out how long the reservation time is
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Figure on about a week I think.
There is a limit to the number of changes in a given time too as the UBR/CMTS maintains a "slot" for each MAC/IP and once they are all filled if you present an additional device MAC it won't get issued with an IP unless you call CS and they can manually clear out an old MAC/IP slot before its expiry time. This messes up those wishing to fool file lockers into getting more free downloads which is another reason for wanting to swap IP.
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My second ADSL router is connected to the WAN side of my ADSL modem/router.
Are you saying that an ADSL router can't be connected to the WAN side of a Cable modem?
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If you read that, I said "some routers can be configured to work". Some also have a separate WAN port (non-ADSL) for backup routing. I'd guess yours is one of these.
However these aren't the norm.
Your question was: "Doesn't any router work off the initial modem?" (it's in the post I was replying to). The answer to that is "NO".
If you want, the answer is "Most don't, a small minority do". But since the question was about "any" router, the answer remains "NO".
Does this explain my reply?
edit - also, in the context of the router being mentioned in the article I was replying to, that one definitely can't. So there.
Edited by deleted (Sun 06-Jan-13 20:59:29)
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Getting a bit shirty.
I thought most routers were multi-port, therefore connecting the modem, whether a modem/router or just a moden from its WAN port to another router (WAN port) would allow the second router to be used as a switch type scenario.
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An ADSL router is expecting the WAN port to be connected to a telephone line and use DSL modulation on it. This is achieved by connecting a suitable cable to an RJ-11 connector in the router and plugging this into a microfilter or filteref faceplate or suitable compatible equipment.
To use a ADSL router as a cable router it needs to offer either:
1. a secondary WAN connection (in the form of RJ-45 connector) designed for backup routing if the ADSL is down, or
2. configuration options to allow one of the ethernet switch ports to be used as a WAN port.
The one I was commenting on as not being suitable doesn't offer either options.
I'm sure the one you are using offer this option, but it's no good to tell people to go and buy incompatible equipment because you have one of the rare ones which work this way.
Is that clear enough now or do you feel the need to keep arguing?
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"I thought most routers were multi-port"
If by multi-port you mean able to support multiple methods (but only one at a time) for connecting to the internet, then I would say that that is pretty rare.
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I think he means that you could use the switch in the second router to extend the main router switch which is often so but as the scenario in this thread is to add a router to the Superhub in modem mode that's irrelevant because it won't work as a router so you'd be unable to use more than one port at a time (if any) due to the lack of a router providing NAT , DHCP, etc.
In short he's wrong and you can't use am ADSL router with a cable modem and expect it to work in any useful way.
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