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Standard User davebruno
(learned) Thu 22-Sep-16 15:46:38
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Re: Vivid Gamer 200 upgrade BQM got worse


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
Yeah I hadn't really been here/read it until I had the issues with Virgin, glad I've joined as there is so much useful info here and now I'm going over to DSL I'm well excited to see some nice stable pings! Just hope I get a lovely DLM profile fingers crossed!

It was the traffic management why I tried their higher tier, I hoped they would sort out the bufferbloat since they upped the upload too but the whole thing just got worse since I plugged in the plauged 3.0 hub..
Standard User 23Prince
(member) Thu 22-Sep-16 18:28:05
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Best thing I ever did was not go with them, judging by their forums and comments here.
Standard User Daemon66
(member) Fri 23-Sep-16 09:45:46
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"all that red" ? What are you on about? A few, less than 1 in 20, ICMP packets exceeded the TTL during the period the line was maxed-out by a substantial download? Yes I call that good.


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Standard User 23Prince
(member) Fri 23-Sep-16 12:35:41
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Sorry I thought the red at the top was packet loss and bad, clearly I am not anal enough to know or care for the ins and outs.
Standard User WWWombat
(knowledge is power) Fri 23-Sep-16 15:47:33
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Yes, any red at the top is pretty terrible. Slightly less terrible if there is a big download saturating the link at the time ... but IMO the link should cope better than that. You really want no red up at the top. At all.

Perhaps I'm picky, but I'd prefer that there was almost no blue either (ie the average latency pretty much matches the minimum latency). Even better if this can be kept during large downloads.

Even pickier ... I'd prefer the green area to have an absolutely flat border. The minimum latency should always be identical.

Unfortunately, I think my pickiness disqualifies me from considering a VM connection.

My current BQM... doesn't quite live up to this pickiness. There's a hint of blue during saturation, and the occasional red dot.
BQM

The yellow spikes in there are (mostly) the places where my SamKnows testbox is running tests - some download tests saturating the link, and some testing streaming performance for YouTube and Netflix (it used to do iPlayer too).
Standard User djfunkdup
(committed) Fri 23-Sep-16 16:29:19
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In reply to a post by 23Prince:
Sorry I thought the red at the top was packet loss and bad, clearly I am not anal enough to know or care for the ins and outs.



Clearly indeed.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...
Vivid200/12+Mbps (Standalone BroadBand Connection)
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 23-Sep-16 18:00:21
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In reply to a post by WWWombat:
Even pickier ... I'd prefer the green area to have an absolutely flat border. The minimum latency should always be identical.


A BQM for a hosted server looks like that, in a data centre with a serious internet connection:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/c2443e38e9b...

Consumer broadband is cheaper for a reason, its asymmetric and that makes it harder for TCP/IP and then there is less money per end user.

My plusnet BQM is similar to yours, earlier this week:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/0748bcc087d...

plusnet unlimited fibre 80/20 since 2 Jun 14 - Sync as of 7th Aug 16: 55,355/10,291 kbps with G.INP
17 years of UK broadband since 1999 ntl:cable modem trial -Router: Asus RT-AC68U with HG612 - BQM
Standard User 23Prince
(member) Fri 23-Sep-16 20:42:57
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In reply to a post by djfunkdup:
In reply to a post by 23Prince:
Sorry I thought the red at the top was packet loss and bad, clearly I am not anal enough to know or care for the ins and outs.



Clearly indeed.


And glad! Having a life is good.
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Sun 25-Sep-16 14:51:37
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although you did pick ovh wink as an example a budget provider.

They sell servers on gigabit uplinks with several TB of usage allowances for cheaper than a broadband connection smile

Sky Fibre Pro BQM - IPv4 BQM - IPv6
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 25-Sep-16 14:53:29
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In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
although you did pick ovh wink as an example a budget provider.

when its a toy server, you want to pay low prices! smile

They sell servers on gigabit uplinks with several TB of usage allowances for cheaper than a broadband connection smile

Exactly.

plusnet unlimited fibre 80/20 since 2 Jun 14 - Sync as of 7th Aug 16: 55,355/10,291 kbps with G.INP
17 years of UK broadband since 1999 ntl:cable modem trial -Router: Asus RT-AC68U with HG612 - BQM
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