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Standard User Seansmit17
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 11-Jun-20 21:17:24
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VM's 1gig rollout


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Has anyone seen or heard anything about the progress of VM's 1 GIG rollout?

Last update I saw was the release in Birmingham & Coventry.

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Standard User BuckleZ
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 15-Jun-20 02:19:40
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I've heard or read nothin!

Hope it comes my way soon, but i've no complaints on 350 service

Standard User Philce
(experienced) Mon 15-Jun-20 13:01:48
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I cant wait for the hub4, In Leicester on 500 and just about to go back to 350 due to the hub3 not being capable of maintaining a decent connection since I was upgraded.


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I've heard or read nothin!

Hope it comes my way soon, but i've no complaints on 350 service


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Standard User BuckleZ
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 16-Jun-20 00:39:32
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After 2yrs of homeplugs I got a direct ethernet cable laid -

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/_assets/speedtest/but...

Well happy! Bring on the faster speeds

Standard User mlmclaren
(knowledge is power) Tue 16-Jun-20 02:45:32
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Have a look at my review of hub 4, may be of interest

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/talk/threads/review-gig1...

Matt - Virgin Media Gig1 with Hub 4 in South Birmingham.

10 years in Technical Customer Service, Construction Trades and Administration - Now I'm a Furloughed Chef
Standard User Philce
(experienced) Tue 16-Jun-20 08:24:18
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Interesting, thanks.

I'm seriously contemplating going to 350 due to the issues I'm facing with 500 on hub 3, no option for even trying the hub 4 here.

The last excuse was that I had "33 devices connected, this will cause issues"!




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Have a look at my review of hub 4, may be of interest

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/talk/threads/review-gig1...
Standard User nemeth782
(committed) Wed 17-Jun-20 07:37:47
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Have a look at my review of hub 4, may be of interest

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/talk/threads/review-gig1...


Interesting, thanks.

My issue with the Hub 4 (not that I have one yet) is the utter lack of foresight VM are displaying with it. Why release it for 1 speed tier that they can never upgrade? The Ethernet ports are a hard cap on the speed never going above 1G.

Who do they think would pay for a 1G service, except the most technically demanding users? Everyone I can think of who would be interested would want to use it in Modem mode, immediately limiting them to ~930mb.

It just needed an SFP+ cage. This would not have significantly increased the cost, and would allow people to use anything from 2.5G/5G/10G ethernet over Cat6a, or cheap DAC cables, or even MM fibre if they like. Personally it would have been ideal for me, and I could have connected it to the 10G WAN on my USG-Pro.
Standard User mlmclaren
(knowledge is power) Wed 17-Jun-20 14:48:07
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There doesn't seem to be any future planning for this hub, I mean the model its based off of has been around and in use for sometime, Virgin just became adopters of it under Liberty Global.

I used this hub (albeit temporarily) whilst working and travelling in Canada, its been in use there (or an option) since 2018 possibly 2017 (Rogers in Canada where using a variant since as early as July 2017)

The reality of anything above 1Gb/s being sold on the residential level is unlikely for atleast a few years, personally wouldn't see any use for any requirment above 1Gb/s.

I would expect Virgin Media will be busy for the next few years not just rolling out DOCSIS 3.1 for Downstream use but bringing upstream bandwdith/capacity up and enabling full duplex DOCSIS 3.1.

Matt - Virgin Media M350 with Hub 4 in South Birmingham.

10 years in Technical Customer Service, Construction Trades and Administration - Now I'm a Furloughed Chef
Standard User BuckleZ
(knowledge is power) Mon 09-Nov-20 22:25:52
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Getting Gig1 in Derry, N.Ireland on Wednesday, for £10 more than i was paying.

Standard User BuckleZ
(knowledge is power) Thu 12-Nov-20 11:13:55
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All done now laugh

Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 12-Nov-20 12:13:11
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Showing off and waste of money!

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Standard User BuckleZ
(knowledge is power) Thu 12-Nov-20 12:17:35
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hahaha ok

Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 12-Nov-20 12:31:27
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All done now laugh

Shame VM can't manage to deliver the concurrent streams to make the TBB average over 900. I can't order in my area, but I don't see any advantage over my M200 with 20Mbps upload. smile

21 years of broadband connectivity since 1999 trial - Live BQM
Standard User BuckleZ
(knowledge is power) Thu 12-Nov-20 12:36:29
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https://ibb.co/ZNQx2xm

I do use 25m of Cat5e from the router.

Edited by BuckleZ (Thu 12-Nov-20 12:50:11)

Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 12-Nov-20 12:50:27
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In reply to a post by BuckleZ:
https://ibb.co/ZNQx2xm

That must be the built in Samknows tool on the Hub 4? Clever, but only tells you the Virgin Media bit is working, doesn't tell you if VM have congestion on their links to the rest of the internet. Vodafone do something similar.

BT's FTTP 1gig service manages to hit over 980 Mbps on the Thinkbroadband tester.

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Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 12-Nov-20 14:09:15
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BT's FTTP 1gig service manages to hit over 980 Mbps on the Thinkbroadband tester.


I've never seen a BT FTTP test that high.

Don't think I've seen any tests over 940Mb.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 12-Nov-20 14:57:21
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I've never seen a BT FTTP test that high.

Don't think I've seen any tests over 940Mb.
Cheers, my memory failed me!

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 12-Nov-20 15:30:09
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Best Gig1 of the month so far http://tbb.st/1604741091276885455

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 12-Nov-20 16:25:19
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Best Gig1 of the month so far http://tbb.st/1604741091276885455
The average and burst HTTP look amazing, the average TBB is oddly low, but I think that happens on all VM connections.

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Standard User Seansmit17
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 12-Nov-20 17:14:55
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Well its not your money hes spending soooooooo

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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 12-Nov-20 19:38:14
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Still waste of £62 a month x 24 months = £1,488 VM must have laughing all the way to their bank!

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Standard User BuckleZ
(knowledge is power) Thu 12-Nov-20 19:56:13
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Paying £54 between 4 adults.

Edited by BuckleZ (Thu 12-Nov-20 19:56:22)

Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 12-Nov-20 20:57:07
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Paying £54 between 4 adults.


Nice one £13.50 per person. But upload still poor.

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Standard User danielhyde
(member) Fri 13-Nov-20 14:45:33
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That's not bad, I went with Virgin at £89 a month for their top package inc TV as I was paying Sky more than that just for TV.
It started off as 300Mbps but they've not long upgraded me to 500Mbps for free.
I'll probably get the Gig package when/if its available.
Standard User nemeth782
(committed) Sat 21-Nov-20 14:43:38
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In reply to a post by adslmax:
In reply to a post by BuckleZ:
Paying £54 between 4 adults.


Nice one £13.50 per person. But upload still poor.


Likely the best upload of any service available to him, unless he has an fttp altnet available.
Standard User chris6273
(committed) Mon 23-Nov-20 20:58:34
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The average and burst HTTP look amazing, the average TBB is oddly low, but I think that happens on all VM connections.

I've found single thread performance really does vary between 300Mbps upwards depending on when you test, although the x6 tests are far more consistent. Then again that's always been the case with VM, even before Gig1.

Speed-wise, the highest typical speed I achieve when doing multi-threaded downloads on my setup is around 1150Mbps, although not many servers can keep up with that.

If only the upload was better...

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Virgin Media (2014 - Present): ~1150/53Mbps (MikroTik RB4011iGS)
Standard User mlmclaren
(knowledge is power) Mon 23-Nov-20 22:39:13
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Still waste of £62 a month x 24 months = £1,488 VM must have laughing all the way to their bank!


18 month contract actually.... also £52.99 for me with Maxit TV, 40GB sim and VoIP.....

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In reply to a post by BuckleZ:
Paying £54 between 4 adults.


Nice one £13.50 per person. But upload still poor.


What's your upload?

I recall you having G.fast available but you weren't happy about it, I wouldn't be either if it wasn't upgradeable....

Once Virgin starts rolling out full duplex docsis 3.1 or even before uploads will still be upgradeable over this pie in the sky xDSL bs

Matt - Just a JitteryPinger

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