Thanks

One presume the converter needs power, so VM run power to the outside wall of every property? Or is it running of the homes mains power?

Really FTTH then, but with a DOCSIS presentation to the hardware, and who knows a full IP set-top box in the future could do away with the need for RFOG and unleash GPON.

A lot more scope for future speed expansion than you have suggested then.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Thanks

One presume the converter needs power, so VM run power to the outside wall of every property? Or is it running of the homes mains power?

Really FTTH then, but with a DOCSIS presentation to the hardware, and who knows a full IP set-top box in the future could do away with the need for RFOG and unleash GPON.

A lot more scope for future speed expansion than you have suggested then.

The power runs to the box from inside.

Afaik GPON is never going to be concentrated on because the amount of RFOG is so small.

This whole thread reads like something from a Monty Python sketch - Acronyms Anonymous!

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This whole thread reads like something from a Monty Python sketch - Acronyms Anonymous!

<pedant mode>
In fact you are referring to Initialisms, since an acronym needs to be a meaningful word!
</pedant mode>

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I was never told what CPE I was using.... Fujitsu didn't really give us that kind of info.

Quick question - if you don't know what the CPE was how do you know it was using RFoG and DOCSIS for broadband rather than, say, GPON then EPON?

In reply to a post by worldofadsl:

The power runs to the box from inside.

Afaik GPON is never going to be concentrated on because the amount of RFOG is so small.

This doesn't make a huge amount of sense. Why would VM ignore the cheaper, larger commodity GPON technology in order to use DOCSIS for broadband because there's less RFoG in use?

I see RFoG as a stepping stone and that in time a new shiny set-top box that is all IP based and just takes Ethernet from a ONT will appear, about the same time as a 4K service rolls out I'd guess.

Maybe even with the concept of zero local storage with paused/catch-up all played from the cloud and thus your PVR contents are available wherever you can get an Internet connection with the correct Virgin app.

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I see RFoG as a stepping stone and that in time a new shiny set-top box that is all IP based and just takes Ethernet from a ONT will appear, about the same time as a 4K service rolls out I'd guess.

Maybe even with the concept of zero local storage with paused/catch-up all played from the cloud and thus your PVR contents are available wherever you can get an Internet connection with the correct Virgin app.

This can all be done now. Indeed it is partly being done; linear TV using RF and broadband and interactive/VOD via GPON to the property and Ethernet between ONT and STB, with coax between STBs and a MoCa router then standard Cat 5e between MoCa embedded router and ONT.

Verizon for example use a Motorola 7232-P2. Everything can also go on the same coax with no Cat 5e and for earlier Verizon installs did, however this solution allows use of the main STB as a media centre.

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In reply to a post by worldofadsl:

I was never told what CPE I was using.... Fujitsu didn't really give us that kind of info.

Quick question - if you don't know what the CPE was how do you know it was using RFoG and DOCSIS for broadband rather than, say, GPON then EPON?

It was an RFoG trail using PIA I did for Virgin, talk talk and Fujitsu.

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In reply to a post by worldofadsl:

The power runs to the box from inside.

Afaik GPON is never going to be concentrated on because the amount of RFOG is so small.

This doesn't make a huge amount of sense. Why would VM ignore the cheaper, larger commodity GPON technology in order to use DOCSIS for broadband because there's less RFoG in use?

I doubt RFoG represents even 0.5% of their network. It makes sense to keep everyone using DOCSIS.