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Standard User BarkingMad
(learned) Sat 28-May-16 17:56:01
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Vodafone - any good?


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Currently got a BT TV box but only pay for movies on demand. I underatand the box will still work on non BT networks (e.g. Iplayer etc). Currently on Inf1 @ 40GB paying £16.90

BT are offering me

Unlimited Inf 1 for 24month @ £18 (£432) or limited 45GB Inf1 for 24 month @ £17 (£408)

It would seem a no brainer to switch and take the unlimited and protect against further rises for thext 2 years, but I'm a Vodafone mobile customer and they are offering https://www.vodafone.co.uk/broadband/deals Infinitry 1 (only 38 product - that's about my maximum at the moment) for 12 month @ £0 and then 6 month @ £15 (£180 over 24 month - assuming price does not increase). Also get eve+weekend calls, the usualy 01,02,03, free caller display, Voicemail. It looks tempting.

Is the VF service any good? Any other suggestions to work around the BT price hike?

Thanks

BarkingMad
Standard User BarkingMad
(learned) Mon 30-May-16 11:45:24
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The slience suggests that it isn't a widely used provider. I'll probably look elsewhere. Price isn't everything. Thans=ks.
Standard User zhango
(regular) Mon 30-May-16 11:54:59
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It would seem a no brainer to switch and take the unlimited and protect against further rises for thext 2 years,

Are you sure BT have excluded the deal from price rises? I took a BT deal for 12 months Inf 1 @ £10/month but they will be increasing price within the 12month period as annnounced recently.


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Standard User gt94sss2
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 30-May-16 12:27:58
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Have you seen what BT offer you at https://www.bt.com/myoffer ?

Not sure if it is a factor for you but with Vodafone I believe you have to use their modem/router..
Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Mon 30-May-16 13:54:24
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It would seem a no brainer to switch and take the unlimited and protect against further rises for thext 2 years

It doesn't work that way unless there is a product that lets you pay the total for 24 months in advance, a bit like the line rental saver product some SPs offer where you pay the 12 months line rental upfront for a small saving on paying it monthly.

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Standard User BarkingMad
(learned) Mon 30-May-16 14:56:08
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Apprentice & Zhango

Good point. Just read the small print in the "my offers". My prices are from the "my offers". I'm in contract so I don't have too much negotiation power - although I can escape due to price increases. I gave notice to move yesterday and so I have a 30 day cancellation window open. Pulse8 seems reasonable - and haven't changed their prices for a long time.


gt94sss2:

Yes, I'd read that I would need to use their router.
Standard User gt94sss2
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 30-May-16 15:51:32
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On the BT side, it might be worth calling them and speaking to their customer options team.

Some other customers have been offered unlimited BT Infinity 1 for £10/month (12 month period) via the 'My Offers site' - and see if they will beat the deal you are being offered online
Standard User flippery
(experienced) Mon 30-May-16 21:37:23
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Would not let lack of reviews put you off re Vodafone. Pulse8 were reliatively unknown until 6 months ago, have good rreviews now.
Vodafone are on the old CandW network, worth a chat with them. at those prices.
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 30-May-16 21:49:41
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The thing is Vodafone is pretty new to this broadband thing and a lot of people on here would still be in contracts, you would really need to ask in a forum with more people on.

I know of someone who is on Vodafone broadband and they seem ok with it, they say it is no worse or better than any other large provider, but they do not like the router, but then they never like routers supplied by the ISP they prefer their own and Vodafone do not allow it.
Also the so called beam technology only really works with devices that are 802.11ac.

But as an ISP they say it is fine.

i keep being pestered by them as I use them for my mobile phone, i have tried to get them to stop, but they still pester me to use their broadband service. i am still in contract with plusnet and to be honest I am not sure if I will be Vodafone for their mobile network in a few months time never mind wanting to use their broadband service.

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Standard User BarkingMad
(learned) Mon 30-May-16 22:27:33
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Thanks gt94sss2, my neighbour had some success using my offer price as a benchmark (£6 less than their offer) so I will call them. It is easier to keep a customer than to gain a customer.

Thanks flippery and zyborg47, I will have a chat to vf because they are good prices and as you say, relatively new. I am a vf mobile customer and they are adamant that my high street has a 4g signal although my phone shows E at best. I have lived with this because of the other features (tethering and use of data/mins abroad for a reasonable amount) but I don't want a bad BB service smile. I'll ask on other forums to see if there is any better view
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 31-May-16 06:31:21
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Vodafone says that we have 4G where i live, not that it makes any difference to me as my phone do not have 4G on it, a friend of mine came up here and they are on Vodafone and they got 4G, but seemed to have problem with it, anyway not bothered about 4G or 3G when I am home as the phone connects to my home broadband.

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Standard User neo_wales
(learned) Tue 31-May-16 09:05:22
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I'm with talktalk, no problems at all and I use a TT mobile sim card which uses the Vodafone network and get 4g out here in the sticks; I barely got 3g when using O2 sim. The sim deal is £7.50 now (I got it on offer for £5.50) a month, 3GB data, 1000 mins and unlimited texts.

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Standard User BarkingMad
(learned) Tue 31-May-16 20:30:47
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Thanks. May stay clear of TT - don't want to be a direct customer.

TT mobile is now with O2 - unless it has changed again...
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2014/11/uk-isp-...

TalkMobile is Vodafone.
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 01-Jun-16 08:59:52
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Thanks. May stay clear of TT - don't want to be a direct customer.

TT mobile is now with O2 - unless it has changed again...
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2014/11/uk-isp-...

TalkMobile is Vodafone.


2014 apparently they switched from Voda to O2, O2 is not bad here, better than EE, which is not difficult.

I would not use Talk Talk either, If I had a choice between BT and Talk Talk it would certainly be BT and I am not that fond of them. Yes, i know that plusnet is owned by Bt, but they are run as a separate company and it was the easiest way to get back onto the network and the cheapest at the time. Now I have more time to look I will look around.

Anyway, Not sure about vodafone myself really, I know they now own the old Bulldog network, which became Cable and wireless. So maybe that would make them have better bandwidth. But not sure if it would make that much difference, look at Talk talk they have LLUY at our exchange and they are still naff.

My Plusnet contract runs out soon, so I am starting to have a look around the problem is I do not really want another long contract.

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Standard User neo_wales
(learned) Wed 01-Jun-16 09:59:28
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Thanks. May stay clear of TT - don't want to be a direct customer.

TT mobile is now with O2 - unless it has changed again...
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2014/11/uk-isp-...

TalkMobile is Vodafone.


My phone says its on vodafone as does this

http://www.4g.co.uk/talktalk-4g-network-coverage/

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Standard User Michael_Chare
(experienced) Wed 01-Jun-16 20:55:27
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I know of someone who is on Vodafone broadband and they seem ok with it, they say it is no worse or better than any other large provider, but they do not like the router, but then they never like routers supplied by the ISP they prefer their own and Vodafone do not allow it.
Can you point to anything that confirms that you are not allowed to use your own router?

I failed to find it in the T&Cs.

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Standard User baby_frogmella
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 01-Jun-16 22:10:38
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In reply to a post by zyborg47:
I know of someone who is on Vodafone broadband and they seem ok with it, they say it is no worse or better than any other large provider, but they do not like the router, but then they never like routers supplied by the ISP they prefer their own and Vodafone do not allow it.
Can you point to anything that confirms that you are not allowed to use your own router?

I failed to find it in the T&Cs.

They simply won't give you the necessary login details should you want to use your own router, though technically you could use the xDSL modem part of the VF router and then piggy back your own router for the wifi/router part.
https://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/Data-on-the-go/Vodaf...
https://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/Pay-monthly-products...

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Standard User Michael_Chare
(experienced) Thu 02-Jun-16 12:01:41
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Thank you. The Vodafone pricing is very attractive if you are already a mobile customer, but making it difficult for you to use your own equipment is very unhelpful.

With my first broadband service I had to buy my own router if I wanted to use one instead of the 'frog'.

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Standard User baby_frogmella
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 02-Jun-16 12:29:15
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With my first broadband service I had to buy my own router if I wanted to use one instead of the 'frog'.


Ahhh yes, I remember the frog USB modem fondly (aka Speedtouch modem) on Bulldog broadband donkeys years ago!

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 02-Jun-16 17:29:44
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]Can you point to anything that confirms that you are not allowed to use your own router?

I failed to find it in the T&Cs.


As baby_frogmella typed they will not give you the details, not sure if piggy backing will work depends how much control is given to people as you would have to disable DHCP, not sure if that can be done with the vodafone router.
This is why I do not like using supplied routers as they normally have some locked down firmware.

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 02-Jun-16 17:34:32
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Ahhh yes, I remember the frog USB modem fondly (aka Speedtouch modem) on Bulldog broadband donkeys years ago!


I still have mine in a box somewhere, it was made by Alcatel at the time before Thomson took that part over.

the only problem with that modem was that it used so much power, so you put it on your USB and that was it, nothing else would work on the other USB on that pair.

Because i had a lodger here at the time, I had a network and the frog was connected to a computer in my bedroom and our two computers was connected to that, so when we wanted to go on to the net the computer in my bedroom would dial up, not that it was really dialling up. did the same thing with Dial up before we went onto ADSL.

Adrian

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 02-Jun-16 17:43:36
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Thank you. The Vodafone pricing is very attractive if you are already a mobile customer, but making it difficult for you to use your own equipment is very unhelpful.

With my first broadband service I had to buy my own router if I wanted to use one instead of the 'frog'.



I am not sure if the prices are that great to be honest, at the start it is with the offer, but to be honest if i went for the 38Mb/s fibre which is what I have with Plusnet, it would cost £31.99 a month, which is in fact 1p more than what I pay now.
I am contracted with Plusnet until August anyway, so it gives me a couple of months to think about what to do.

i would save in my first 12 months as Vodafone would do an offer, the problem is I am one of these people that do not like all my eggs in one basket.

Adrian

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Standard User Michael_Chare
(experienced) Thu 02-Jun-16 18:45:04
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It does depend. At a Market 1 exchange for an ADSL service, Plusnet charge £17.49 after any inital period, Vodafone want £5. At the moment I have an 18 month free broadband contract with Plusnet, I need to be careful what happens when the contract comes to an end. According to uswitch, SSE will do upto 76Mbps FTTC for £5.00 pm

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Standard User flippery
(experienced) Fri 03-Jun-16 08:03:08
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Being on a Market 1 exchange the options are limited for ADSL2. There is TalkTalk LLU presence,
Decided to go down the Pulse8 route with LLU good price and only 1 month notice
There is fibre option but, speed not much different. Not worth the extra for my limited use.
May look at Vodafone later. Notice their router is linked to an App which allows you to prioritise users for speed when multi access internet, amongst others. Does appear to be loaded towards Vodafone Mobile Users with Home Phone Options though.
Standard User mbames
(regular) Mon 06-Jun-16 23:13:19
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They simply won't give you the necessary login details should you want to use your own router, though technically you could use the xDSL modem part of the VF router and then piggy back your own router for the wifi/router part.
https://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/Data-on-the-go/Vodaf...
https://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/Pay-monthly-products...


One of my mates, after a few phone calls, managed to get the logon details from VF, but last I heard he could never get his Draytek to connect using them - so maybe the guy just lied to him to get him off the phone (although they did text him the same details). I must catch up with him and find out if he ever had success or not.

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 07-Jun-16 17:41:20
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One of my mates, after a few phone calls, managed to get the logon details from VF, but last I heard he could never get his Draytek to connect using them - so maybe the guy just lied to him to get him off the phone (although they did text him the same details). I must catch up with him and find out if he ever had success or not.


If a provider do not want me to connect my own router and they do want to provide the info to do it, then they will not get my custom

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