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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 17-Mar-21 08:55:45
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Re: Porting VOIP phone number back to Openreach PSTN


[re: woodlander] [link to this post]
 
You would need to check with the landline provider as I suspect not all providers are willing to port numbers from VoIP - you might find you get a landline and then they can't (or won't) port the number.
Standard User woodlander
(newbie) Thu 18-Mar-21 16:04:31
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All,

Thanks for the advice and suggestions.

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Standard User Pheasant
(experienced) Fri 19-Mar-21 07:09:42
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That’s a dumb idea. Prepare your mate for long term - not for 3 years. That’s short sighted. Copper is a dead end.

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Standard User jaba
(member) Fri 19-Mar-21 12:42:13
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Re: Porting VOIP phone number back to Openreach PSTN


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This thread has got me wondering about how to connect two voip services to my home phone network.

Currently I have a BT landline which serves our DECT phones and extensions. Also I have a VOIP ATA which has just one DECT connected, this is used for outgoing calls only with calls displaying my landline number. This is done for call cost control reasons mainly.

When my ISP (BT) switches off PSTN and provides a VOIP router for the phone service would it be possible to connect both VOIP services to the home phones together with some way of letting the ATA know when to make a call instead of the BT. Ideally an ATA with two phone ports could be setup but I think that currently BT will not provide the necessary configuration signons. to enable this.

How to do this then is my query; receive calls via BT landline number over VOIP and make calls via separate VOIP service on the same home phones avoiding having to port the number to VOIP and losing my VDSL.
Standard User Michael_Chare
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 19-Mar-21 14:35:06
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[re: jaba] [link to this post]
 
There is the Gigaset N300 IP Dect base station. It has one telephone line input port and can have several VOIP connections. There is some ability to route outgoing calls to the port or the VOIP services.

It is best used witth Gigaset Dect phones. Other Dect phones would connect but you only tend to get basic functions such as making and receiving calls. Advance functions such as transfering directory entries from one phone to another quite possibly won't work. I use the Gigaset C430 phones.

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Standard User tdw42
(member) Fri 19-Mar-21 17:08:42
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[re: jaba] [link to this post]
 
If you stick with BT residential as an ISP then then as you say it is not possible to use third-party VoIP devices (ATA, DECT base stations, etc.). You could keep your current setup - rather than the PSTN connection you would have a connection from the phone socket on the BT Smart Hub 2 to your phones, potentially with a VRI faceplate if you have wired extensions around the house.

If you wish to have all the phones connected to a different VoIP provider you are going to have to port out the number. This isn't an issue when FTTP becomes available, you get a new data-only FTTP service and once live port out the PSTN number to VoIP which ceases the FTTC or ADSL connection.

AFAIK there are things afoot to make it easier to port out a number from a live service, I suspect the bigger ISPs rate not really interested in doing so as they wish to keep control of broadband+phone as exorbitant call fees and call packages are a nice earner for them AAISP can do port-out-and-renumber, I don't know if it only applies if you also have broadband with them, but likely.
Standard User Pheasant
(experienced) Fri 19-Mar-21 18:31:04
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👍 The N300A IP is a great little device for the money. I've used several over the years. They are supremely flexible for an 'out of the box', reasonably straightforward but capable solution for combining landline + VOIP with a good quality DECT base.

Flexibility beyond this would generally see something like a little asterisk box and perhaps an ATA/PSTN gateway device to handle the landline, but for only 2 lines I'd go for the N300A every time.

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Standard User jaba
(member) Fri 19-Mar-21 23:28:06
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Encouraging to know that the N300 exists and would do the job with calls coming in via the BT voip and going out over my ATA.

If my BT DECT handsets would not work well enough to select the correct outgoing line it seems there would be the need to invest in Gigaset handsets. I wonder if it is known if that would be possible (auto select ATA).
If not I guess I could buy a N300 or N300a and have a play around myself. It is a while off before we have to change.

Edited by jaba (Sat 20-Mar-21 00:02:09)

Standard User Pheasant
(experienced) Sun 21-Mar-21 09:02:50
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You’d connect the PSTN port of the N300A directly to the FXS port on the (future) BT router. That’s your future “landline” VoIP - but the N300A simply thinks it’s an analogue line.

Then connect the Ethernet port of the N300A to the router for a network connection for your other VoIP account to function off the N300A.

On the N300A setup your other other VoIP account credentials and setup the outbound call selection to favour the VoIP over the “landline”. You can choose to do so for all calls or selectively on a call by call basis - prompted on the handset to choose which in initiating a call.

Use the DECT functionality to add any other Gigaset or third party handsets to the base.

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Standard User jaba
(member) Sun 21-Mar-21 23:39:33
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Thanks for all the need to know stuff. As there is not much else to do during lockdown I have just ebayed some Gigaset devices to setup and do a trial installation after they have arrived.
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