Can I get SIP, ATA or DECT to do this (no copper landline)?

I would like to modernise my several year old equipment and simplify my setup to use recent equipment and technologies. I get the impression VOIP/SIP has advanced greatly over the past few years.

I am hoping a SIP enabled DECT phone can do everything but also open to an ATA with standard DECT phone or something else if costs are significantly cheaper or required to meet requirements.

Have included requirements below in order of importance if I have to do without something.

1. Support at least two SIP providers with ability to choose which provider is used when making an outgoing call
2. Permanently block incoming numbers based on caller ID
3. If caller ID is not present (unavailable / international, withheld) ask caller to press a key to get through
4. Block dialling to specific numbers (e.g. premium, speaking clock, directory enquiries - I provide prefixes)
5. Automatically use a specific SIP provider for a call depending on number prefixes I provide (e.g. mobiles use SIP 1 and others use SIP 2)
6. Have some kind of interface so I can view / manage / backup all the settings / configuration easily

Thanks

Edited by think26872 (Tue 16-Nov-21 13:59:53)

I’m not sure you’re going to find all your required functionality in an ‘appliance’ approach (i.e. DECT base or ATA).

You could do all of the above (and waaaaaaay more) with a little box running Asterisk/FreePBX but there’s a bit of a learning curve. Not sure if you’re up for that challenge. It is very good though.

The Gigaset N300 is a VOIP DECT base station which will do will do some of what you want. It works best with Gigaset phones such as the C430. You can usually buy it together with a number of phones. It has an ethernet port for the VOIP connection and for access to the GUI.

I agree, I've not seen a handset that can do this but I do know that Asterisk will be able to do this.

Thanks
Dan

There are some very particular requirements above, that frankly I just can’t see any off the shelf box being able to do.

Yes all this is very do-able in Asterisk. I’ve done most of them, but as said, even with a webgui front end via FreePBX et al, there is a learning curve, if you haven’t any sort of comms / telephony background. It’s only fair to warn and set expectations.

Asterisk and the various wrappers, are offer a fully fledged “PBX in a box” (although I should be careful with that expression, given it’s the name of another very popular Asterisk distro).

Thanks for your replies.

I have an ATA that near enough does everything I list but it is a very old device and more than a bit clunky so wanted to know if there was anything more modern and is available.

I have only dabbled in VOIP for making calls at the moment but trying to prepare for no landline and get everything working before I take the plunge.

FreePBX is a possibility and I have been evaluating it but I am not sure it is the solution especially as configuration and complexity isn't exactly easy. It is fun giving it a try though.

In reply to a post by think26872:

I would like to modernise my several year old equipment and simplify my setup to use recent equipment and technologies. I get the impression VOIP/SIP has advanced greatly over the past few years.

I am hoping a SIP enabled DECT phone can do everything but also open to an ATA with standard DECT phone or something else if costs are significantly cheaper or required to meet requirements.

Have included requirements below in order of importance if I have to do without something.

1. Support at least two SIP providers with ability to choose which provider is used when making an outgoing call
2. Permanently block incoming numbers based on caller ID
3. If caller ID is not present (unavailable / international, withheld) ask caller to press a key to get through
4. Block dialling to specific numbers (e.g. premium, speaking clock, directory enquiries - I provide prefixes)
5. Automatically use a specific SIP provider for a call depending on number prefixes I provide (e.g. mobiles use SIP 1 and others use SIP 2)
6. Have some kind of interface so I can view / manage / backup all the settings / configuration easily

Thanks

My hosting provider is Voipfone and while I do have a Gigaset Wireless phone as part of my setup, the majority of my calls are handled by a desktop VoIP phone, the snom D385. So looking down your list of desires, I would say against your bullet point numbers the following:
1) No problem
2) No problem
3) If it is possible, I have no information
4) Probably possible but I have no need for that facility
5) Yes. No special prefix needed if a function key is used
6) Control panel provided but will probably take you a few weeks to learn your way around it to fine tune your installation.

A setting on the desktop phone is not a global setting for other devices on your network.

A major downside with Voipfone is there expensive, inflexible, call plans so much so that I find it cheaper to use their pay by call tariff. My ISP is Zen and they do offer 1000 minutes to landlines for £5.10 a month but not available if you don't have a landline..

In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:

The Gigaset N300 is a VOIP DECT base station which will do will do some of what you want. It works best with Gigaset phones such as the C430. You can usually buy it together with a number of phones. It has an ethernet port for the VOIP connection and for access to the GUI.

Thanks I had seen the N300 in my searches. If anyone has a N300 and can list which bits it can and can't do that would be great? Not sure if the N300 is still supported though. With everything moving to VOIP I am surprised there aren't more options. Thanks

In reply to a post by trolleybus:

My hosting provider is Voipfone and while I do have a Gigaset Wireless phone as part of my setup, the majority of my calls are handled by a desktop VoIP phone, the snom D385. So looking down your list of desires, I would say against your bullet point numbers the following...

This looks more like it and sounds promising thanks for the information. The main problem is the desk format instead of DECT but at least it looks like technology has moved on. I also have a bad feeling it is more of a business device and it will be expensive!

In reply to a post by think26872:

In reply to a post by trolleybus:

My hosting provider is Voipfone and while I do have a Gigaset Wireless phone as part of my setup, the majority of my calls are handled by a desktop VoIP phone, the snom D385. So looking down your list of desires, I would say against your bullet point numbers the following...

This looks more like it and sounds promising thanks for the information. The main problem is the desk format instead of DECT but at least it looks like technology has moved on. I also have a bad feeling it is more of a business device and it will be expensive!

I have used most of the phones in the snom range with an upgrade to a D385 due in December. There isn't much change out of £200 though. What is very popular with readers of this forum is the Gigaset VoIP wireless bundles, the more you pay, the better the handset. I personally have the N510 IP PRO. It is know that using Voipfone as your hosting provider, almost all of your desires can be meet if you get the configuration right.

My setup has the desktop phone and the Gigaset unit in a group so that incoming calls rings both devices at the same time; either can answer the call. For outgoing calls on the Gigaset unit, it is set to be able to choose any SIP configuration but with a default SIP choice. In the Gigaset range of base stations, I could see little point in having an answerphone facility as all that is handled by Voipfone and I could see no advantage in having a secondary PSTN style facility either fed from the master socket or a 'Digital Voice' service available from the router, but that's my personal choice.