finally, left BT, got mac code

I was on Home BT and had speed issues AND fup issues so restricted my account, i got sold a BT buisness line saying the FUP is alot nice with the Business so went with that and STILL [censored] FUP restriction AND [censored] speeds. But when i connected to business i got reset so i was in a cooling off period hehe, and now got a MAC CODE

so need u guys help to recommend me the best and most reliable broadband service for [removed] postcode, i admittedly download quite a bit and stream alot on iplayer, youtube etc. So any1 got any recommendations no FUP would be awesome but its unlikely. Cheers guys

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Edited by MrSaffron (Wed 10-Dec-08 15:53:53)

Firstly, I would remove your postcode from a public forum (if I were you).

It looks like you're one of the unlucky people to live in a fairly large town, served by a large telephone exchange (almost 21,000 lines), but with absolutely no LLU coverage!

"Samknows" is reporting Talk-Talk will be available from 27th December, but as you seem to be a fairly heavy user (after no, or little FUP) I'd stear well clear of TT.

As you're stuck with a BT wholesale product, maybe look to one of the Entanet resellers, or if you can live with a 20-30GB monthly allowance (including off-peak) maybe look to IDnet, Newnet, or Zen.

30gb allowance no way i would die lol, best bet an entanet reseller then which is the best and consistent speed, and any links?

I used to be with UKFSN, then migrated across to ADSL24 (only because, at the time, they provided more information via their web interface).
Both were very good, considering the huge 300GB off peak allowance, with speeds close to 85% of the BT imposed IP profile for most of the time, with drops to around 2-3Mbps for a couple of hours after 10pm weekdays, and weekend afternoons (so I used to move the big downloads to after midnight).

ADSL24.co.uk
UKFSN.org

Just be aware your exchange is due to have 21cn WBC enabled in March, so Entanet may switch you to an ADSL2+ connection.
You'll have to hope BT have fixed the things they broke!

ok thanks ill check them sellers out, do they have clear places to see what GB ive used etc, and also what does 21cn WBC enabled mean?

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BT's new up to 24Mbps service.

Most if not all resellers will have that information in their control panels, and even if they don't it is also available from the Enta billing site.

Regards,
Steve

Have a look at O2 Access as well, plus more details.

No capping, no throttling, genuine unlimited. Some problems in parts of the country at the moment due to rapid growth and equipment provision not caught up yet. But a 30-day money-back guarantee.

Be aware of the Entanet ALT system, but if your sync speed is below 4000kbps it won't really affect you. Also watch the Entanet Central performance, particularly 10pm-12pm and all weekend.

No capping, no throttling, genuine unlimited. Some problems in parts of the country at the moment due to rapid growth and equipment provision not caught up yet.

How would that affect a BT Wholesale product? LLU I could understand by why should parts of the country suffer and not others unless it is local exchange congestion, in which case the OP is out of luck regardless of which BTW ISP he chooses. If it is a lack of BT centrals surely the effects would be felt across the country?

Regards,
Steve

im looking at o2 access at the moment, so do they have no FUP in place at the moment, and how do i find out if they have problems in my area?

No idea really but it seems to be so. It could be exactly the same problem as a few LLU customers are having, as O2/Be seem to have some congestion between them and LINX affecting some and not others. Or it could be with where and how users are connected to Centrals or the load balancing between them - aka Entanet balancing and C7 & C8.

I did mean to check his exchange for congestion and forgot. Will do it now.

There is an FUP - see this page but it seems never to have been invoked. Also IIRC O2 have been on radio or TV saying they would not cap or throttle, just warn initially.

Re your area, best to open a thread in the O2 forum on this site and ask about it. However make sure any opinions are up-to-date - I have just checked your exchange (Weymouth?) here and it seems there has been probable congestion for ages, cleared in the last few days, so that could partly explain your problems at BT.

Well that's the thing. When Entanet as a whole is on a go-slow or just specific centrals the effects are felt regardless of location. LLU I can understand how certain areas might suffer while others don't if O2 need to upgrade the equipment in the exchange or the backhaul out of it, but with BTW they don't have any equipment in the exchange so there's nothing to be upgraded other than the centrals, but then effects of lack of capacity/load balancing would be noticed everywhere.
That's how I understand it, am I barking up the wrong tree?

Regards,
Steve

An exchange can be a congestion point for O2 and BTW.
The regional network can be a congestion point for o2 and BTW.

What BTW call a BT Central is akin to a regional node for O2 probably.

Places for congestion will be similar in number, just different names for the bit of fibre involved.

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Probably not. As I said, I don't know the reasons or answers.

All I am saying is there does seem to be a geographic problem, and also on LLU. Re the OP's exchange, see my latest reply to him.

But we're talking about O2 Access over BTW here, or am I still missing the point?

Regards,
Steve

Maybe I'll stop saying geographic, as basically that is me just guessing.

What is certain is that there are a few people having a bad experience on O2 Access, and a few on O2 LLU. There are however more users making positive posts on these forums about their experience than negative. Just that it tends to be a single post not the series that each unhappy user quite reasonably posts.

Aha - in which case whether the centrals are populated on a round robin or are steered by virtue of their IPStream user name will have an effect.

For providers with multiple centrals there is no guarantee they will be on the same VP leaving exchange, or same Central.

If ISP uses specific @ parts to define which central then things are more predictable. One virtue of BT Centrals is that is upstream traffic is high, the downstream capability can be impacted, which is why some providers include UPSTREAM in their usage figures.

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It looks like you're one of the unlucky people to live in a fairly large town, served by a
large telephone exchange (almost 21,000 lines), but with absolutely no LLU coverage!

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So what have all the LLU operators got against Weymouth when there are loads and loads of exchanges with only 5,000 lines with two or three LLU operators?

Even allowing for a huge number of the phone lines in Weymouth being in summer rental acommodation and weekend cottages and after also allowing for a very large number of pensioners in the town compared to other areas I still can't see why all the main LLU firms would have avoided it up to now. Not with 21,000 lines.

Is there some odd factor in terms of Weymouth's connection to the rest of the telephone network (no non BT fibre connection for instance to the area) that explains this very odd situation.

Can't answer your questions, but what ISP are you with and what don't you like?

There are several good ISPs available to you. But tell us what you use the internet for, and how much you pay/want to pay/would pay at most.