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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 15-Feb-11 14:44:56
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has anyone signed upto BT infinity


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Has anyone upgraded to infinity from a ADSL connection and noticed a significant increase in their sync speed? Are you gureenteed at least a certain speed? On the BT website it says up to 40MB

Also why do I need a BT line ? I thought it's fibre optic which is a different type of cable all together.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 15-Feb-11 14:51:35
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Many.
All.
Have you tried your phone number in this checker. That gives you an estimate, and nearly all so far have been faster.

Not sure this is a "Which ISP?" question tongue. Maybe you should be browsing the Fibre Broadband, (there are several other suppliers of BT Openreach FTTC, Infinity is just the BT Broadband flavour), and BT Broadband forums?

Edit, to match yours - 15Mbps.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 15-Feb-11 22:22:46
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I had a new phone line and Infinity option 2 installed on Tuesday of last week (8th Feb). My IP Profile is 38717 kbps downstream and 10000 kbps upstream.

The checker on the Infinity website predicted that I was able to get an estimated connection of 28.7 Mbit downstream and 6.8 Mbit upstream.

Speedwise I tend to get a constant 37+ Mbit down and 8+ Mbit up regardless of the time of day.

My line is exactly 547m length from my home to the FTTC cab (BT engineer informed me of the line length when doing tests after installing the line and then Infinity).

You can't have Infinity without a BT line - end of story. Infinity is fibre to the cabinet which means your standard phone cable runs between your premises and the FTTC cab and the the new stuff from the FTTC cab to the exchange.

To get Infinity you also have to be able to get a min of 15 Mbit downstream. Lower than that and no Infinity (as my brother found out: he's estimated to be able to get 13.1 Mbit down and 5 Mbit up).

You can get details regarding Infinity from BTs Infinity website: link


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 16-Feb-11 01:39:29
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Infinity may be tied to a BT Retail phone line, but with other providers selling FTTC WLR/CPS options are still possible

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 16-Feb-11 07:41:44
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Infinity may be tied to a BT Retail phone line
I seem to remember not long ago, (in oldie time), this was explored and it was established it isn't so.

Many BT staff will say it has to be a BT line, but just like any other "BT line" it can be with any WLR supplier. I don't find it surprising that BT staff aren't told BT does not mean BT Retail in this context.

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Wed 16-Feb-11 16:29:04
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He said "may" not "must"!

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 16-Feb-11 16:38:46
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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
He said "may" not "must"!
The use of "may" in that construction is these days ambiguous. It could be "may = is indeed", or "may = perhaps is but perhaps isn't".

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Wed 16-Feb-11 17:04:50
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Don't believe your 1st interpretation for 1 minute, nor does my dictionary. You're confused with "may indeed" indeed!

He may indeed have meant to say "must" but he did indeed say "may"!

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 16-Feb-11 17:35:57
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i have seen around 50 or 60 now with almost 100% achieving over 30m throughput via a wired connection. the results vary hugely with wireless though.

most seem to be around 36 to 38m
Standard User andygegg
(newbie) Wed 16-Feb-11 17:38:33
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The eagle eyed amongst you may have noticed the small print on the new BT TV ads (I paraphrase) - 85% of users switching to fibre get at least a 3fold increase in download speed. So, if the fibre rollout over Cornwall actually happens, I've got an 85% chance of getting 2 point 5 Mb/s. Let joy be unconfined!
Standard User orly
(experienced) Wed 16-Feb-11 17:41:22
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In reply to a post by andygegg:
The eagle eyed amongst you may have noticed the small print on the new BT TV ads (I paraphrase) - 85% of users switching to fibre get at least a 3fold increase in download speed. So, if the fibre rollout over Cornwall actually happens, I've got an 85% chance of getting 2 point 5 Mb/s. Let joy be unconfined!


haha should do better than that

We got about 6 fold increase and we're far from our cabinet

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BT Infinity 8th July 2010
Connected to: P23 Kilmaine Road, Bangor, BT19 6DT (NIBA)
600m (approx) to cabinet
25.5mbit down / 7.6mbit up

Previously:
BT Broadband, roughly 4mbit sync
4KM line / 54dB atten / 9dB SNR / Netgear DG834GT
Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Wed 16-Feb-11 17:43:37
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Don't understand! "50 or 60" what? 100% of what?

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB
Standard User andygegg
(newbie) Wed 16-Feb-11 18:06:47
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We're two and a half miles from ours, how about you?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 16-Feb-11 21:17:15
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May as in may be the case or may not.

BT Total certainly promotes the bundles, and is allowed to limit you to having a non WLR product if they want to.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 16-Feb-11 21:47:37
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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
Don't understand! "50 or 60" what? 100% of what?


Installations maybe?
Standard User MHC
(legend) Wed 16-Feb-11 22:05:53
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Sync has gone up by factor of six.

From 6Mb to 39Mb and I get 36/37/38 Mb download speeds





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(Unregistered)Wed 16-Feb-11 22:56:12
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might cheer you up but I went from 1.5M to 37M - and yes I was joyful!
Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Thu 17-Feb-11 01:41:11
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Really? The poster had seen that # of installations?

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 17-Feb-11 07:48:22
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Well he does seem to be a BT FTTC engineer?

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 17-Feb-11 10:17:13
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If you are in cornwall three options exist

around 80-90% of properties will receive a fifty/fifty shot at ftth/fttc

Remainder will get some other service, wireless, satellite, BET.

Adverts are NOT able to reflect an individuals circumstances, but provide in a second or so a general idea of what is possible.

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Standard User cheshire_man
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 17-Feb-11 12:07:35
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Just tried the checker for my number and it says (edited)
ADSL broadband service that provides a fixed line speed up to 2Mbps.
....
ADSL Max broadband line speed of 4Mbps; typically the line speed would range between 3Mbps and 7Mbps.
....
an estimated ADSL2+ broadband line speed of 5.5Mbps; typically the line speed would range between 3Mbps and 8Mbps
....
an estimated ADSL 2+ Annex-M broadband upstream line speed of 1Mbps and downstream line speed of 3Mbps; typically the downstream speed would range between 2Mbps and 4Mbps.
....
an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 7.7Mbps and upstream line speed of 3.3Mbps.
I am on an LLU line for broadband and receive a consistent 5Mbps download and 550-560Kbps upload. So fibre doesn't give me all that much (I'm not concerned too much about upload speed). The only cabinet I've seen in the area is about 1/2 mile crow flies distance.

By comparison the BT Infinity checker says
BT Infinity is not currently due to be rolled out in your area.Register and we will keep you up to date about the BT Infinity rollout.
So I don't see any benefit in considering FTTC.

Tony
Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Thu 17-Feb-11 14:05:21
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Well he does seem to be a BT FTTC engineer?
I see no indication of that. I was just puzzled by what units he was implying for his quantities.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 17-Feb-11 14:31:46
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And I was merely answering your question which seemed to doubt that anyone could have seen that many installations. smile

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Hi,

I work for BT so hopefully can help! I've had my BT Infinity installed at home today. I was on the original ADSL getting 2.5Mb. My new BT Infinity speed is 37.8Mb Download with 10Mb upload.

The reason you reqiure a BT Line is because it is FTTC (Fibre to the Cabinet) from the Green cabinet nearest to your house it remains copper (so customers do not need new cabling into their house).

The www.bt.com/infinity can tell you by your landline number what speed you can get and when it will be available in your area.

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I have just followed that link to confirm that I can't get the service, however when I try and find out, the site reckons my phone number and post code down match. Err, yes they do. I suspect it is because I only have a 6 alphanumeric postcode, I have had that problem on poorly produced sites before .....?
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