Line speed different with different ISPs?

Hi,

I am wanting to change to a cheap phone and broadband deal. I'm currently on Madasafish, provided though BT I believe and Plusnet are doing a deal which is cheap for my area, and again I belive this is coming through BT. I've had a look at my exchange and Sky, Orange & Talk Talk have LLU. The BT wholesale info on the exchange is ADSL Max enabled.

Now my issue is I live really far away from the exchange so I have rubbish line speed. Would it be possible that I could get faster broadband from moving away from BT to one of the others? If so how do I check?

Talk Talk were round the other day and they reckon they can give me line speed 5x more than Plusnet reckon they can give me (1Mb plusnet, 5Mb TalkTalk). I'm not inclined to believe cold callers or Talk Talk, so how can I know if one ISP is faster than another? I would ideally like a cheaper deal than I'm on now (not difficult) but not Talk Talk because of their shocking customer service reviews, so maybe Sky would be an option for me? Obv if the Talk Talk line can give me 5x anyone else I'll go with them, but don't want to be tied into someone more expensive for a year than I can get elsewhere for the same speed

Help please

You perhaps could get a fast speed from an isp that offers the service via their own network,(llu)

whilst it is impossible to know what speed you would be able to get for certain until you are connected, all you can get until then are guesstimates that mean very little in the real world,

could you post your line stats from your router so we can give you guesstimate based on your attenuation rather than the way bt does it,

If you have sky tv already sky maybe wouldn't be a bad choice for you, but it's advisable to keep your phone line with bt ,as should you ever wish to leave them it will only require a mac code, otherwise the process of returning your line to bt can cost you money and involve some downtime for both phone and adsl,

Just something you should be aware of before you decide, as for talktalk they will only do full llu unless they cannot connect you to their network, & that would be the same type of product that you are currently having issues with a resold bt wholesale or ipstream product, and such resold product through sky(known as connect) or talktalk would be dire,compared to their own llu

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See here for help finding the line stats Tommy requested, if you don't know how to get them.

In reply to a post by rcf100:

Hi,

I am wanting to change to a cheap phone and broadband deal. I'm currently on Madasafish, provided though BT I believe and Plusnet are doing a deal which is cheap for my area, and again I belive this is coming through BT. I've had a look at my exchange and Sky, Orange & Talk Talk have LLU. The BT wholesale info on the exchange is ADSL Max enabled.

Help please

Hi, for cheap as chips� take a look at Orange.

If you have Orange mobile phone contract? It can make your broadband service even lower in price by £5 per month and you stay on the BT network for Orange landline phone and Orange broadband.

http://shop.orange.co.uk/broadband/

Is your sig still right - re Orange LLU, or are you now on the BT Wholesale White Label service like XRaySpeX?

Believe E7er still on LLU; his exchange not yet 21CN'ed.

Wasn't aware I had scotch whisky piped down my connection; thought it was just WBC

I seem to remember there have been a couple of hard-luck stories posted in the last month, where people have been moved from LLU to IPSC, (IPStream/ADSL Max replacement on non-21CN exchanges).

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Is your sig still right - re Orange LLU, or are you now on the BT Wholesale White Label service like XRaySpeX?

Hi, I�m not telling! Figure it out from my stats below.

View Broadband Link Details
DSL Connection Details
DSL Line (Wire Pair): Line 1 (inner pair)
Protocol: G.DMT2+ Annex A
Downstream Rate: 11984 kbps
Upstream Rate: 1145 kbps
Channel: Interleaved
Current Noise Margin: 10.2 dB (Downstream), 6.2 dB (Upstream)
Current Attenuation: 30.2 dB (Downstream), 14.9 dB (Upstream)
Current Output Power: 18.6 dBm (Downstream), 11.9 dBm (Upstream)
DSLAM Vendor Information: Country: {0xB5} Vendor: {BDCM} Specific: {0x9662}
PVC Info: 0/38

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1323314143.png

http://www.pingtest.net/result/41393343.png

My exchange http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/CMKNO

OK!

In reply to a post by E7er:

Current Noise Margin: 10.2 dB (Downstream),

= LLU

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

OK!

In reply to a post by E7er:

Current Noise Margin: 10.2 dB (Downstream),

= LLU

Yep! I am still on Orange LLU, but it looks it will not be for much longer before I am moved to WBC.

This morning I received a letter from BT offering me 20 Meg broadband with UK free evening and weekend landline calls for £13 per month and the option of line rental for just £10 a month when you pay 12 months in advance.

It's a good offer, but with only 10GB usage allowance.
When I get my mobile phone on Orange contract, Orange will be cheaper and they give unlimited usage allowance on the BT WBC network.

Edited by deleted (Fri 03-Jun-11 11:07:48)

Same WBC network, but the experience can be different as the ISP is actually buying a different type of service.

If all BT Wholesale based services were equal why would there be a difference on the old IPStream products?

e.g. O2 Access is pants compared to BT Total even

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Same WBC network, but the experience can be different as the ISP is actually buying a different type of service.

If all BT Wholesale based services were equal why would there be a difference on the old IPStream products?

e.g. O2 Access is pants compared to BT Total even

Hi MrSaffron, I see what you mean I have changed my post and deleted �same�.
How will Orange buy the WBC network usage do they still have to buy a pipe or what ever it is?