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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 03-Mar-12 12:51:38
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Re: Which ISP or Reseller?


[re: XRaySpeX] [link to this post]
 
Depends what time of day he connected. 6.3dB is perfectly consistent with the tweak he claims if he did it outside daylight hours and took the stats in daylight.

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 03-Mar-12 12:55:20
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[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
I wonder! I never see more than 0.5 dB variation between day & night.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 03-Mar-12 15:09:34
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[re: XRaySpeX] [link to this post]
 
And I always had 3.5dB variation.

Cue a discussion of the settings normally available and why any above 6dB are necessary tongue.

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Standard User tommy45
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 03-Mar-12 15:42:31
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Re: Which ISP or Reseller?


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In reply to a post by willsweet2:
I was generalizing and simplifying with the theory that torrents are usually used for illegal means.

Edit: He didn't mention the contract, but I suppose he probably does have one

But there is nothing illegal about a torrent or P2P, the media use words such as illegal just to hype things up, TalkTalk throttle P2P not because of if it be illegal or not , but to save resources on their network,nothing else

Edited by tommy45 (Sat 03-Mar-12 15:45:44)

Standard User LoWLatencY
(newbie) Sat 03-Mar-12 19:39:12
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Re: Which ISP or Reseller?


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
I took the stats just before posting them to this thread so around 10:30am this morning.

Here are my stats as of the time I took them, 19:30pm as reported by DMT.

Down Up
G.dmt framing
--stats
adslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 8000
Max: Upstream rate = 1278 Kbps, Downstream rate = 25816 Kbps
Path: 0, Upstream rate = 1287 Kbps, Downstream rate = 21060 Kbps

Link Power State: L0
Mode: ADSL2+
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.2 7.7
Attn(dB): 10.0 2.8
Pwr(dBm): 18.1 12.1

ADSL2 framing

MSGc: 59 16
B: 54 36
M: 1 1
T: 11 3
R: 8 0
S: 0.0902 0.9866
L: 5585 300
D: 352 1

Counters

SF: 2226275 144660
SFErr: 0 42
RS: 1591787224 0
RSCorr: 835 0
RSUnCorr: 0 0

HEC: 0 22
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 1783675695 688911244
Data Cells: 679548 9652707
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 258429

ES: 0 24
SES: 0 0
UAS: 34 34
AS: 35910

INP: 2.01 0.00
PER: 16.13 16.28
delay: 7.94 0.24
OR: 32.23 10.81

Bitswap: 864 2

I will reverse the tweak and post the stats so that you can look at what's going on without any modifications having been made smile
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 03-Mar-12 21:25:47
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[re: LoWLatencY] [link to this post]
 
It's stats taken immediately after a reconnection, preferably done during daylight hours, with no tweaking, that are needed. The current problem is you said you had tweaked to 3.6/3.8dB, yet you are showing over 6dB.

So we can't tell anything from that except either you haven't tweaked the SNR, or something is odd.

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Standard User LoWLatencY
(newbie) Sun 04-Mar-12 17:40:28
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Re: Which ISP or Reseller?


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
It's stats taken immediately after a reconnection, preferably done during daylight hours, with no tweaking, that are needed. The current problem is you said you had tweaked to 3.6/3.8dB, yet you are showing over 6dB.

So we can't tell anything from that except either you haven't tweaked the SNR, or something is odd.


Odd :-/ I tweaked the SNR with DMT and rebooted/resynced for changes to take effect. Anyhow here are my stats following a resync during daylight hours and without tweaks.

Statistics -- xDSL

Mode: ADSL_2plus
Traffic Type: ATM
Status: Up
Link Power State: L0

Downstream Upstream
Line Coding(Trellis): On On
SNR Margin (0.1 dB): 63 75
Attenuation (0.1 dB): 100 24
Output Power (0.1 dBm): 181 122
Attainable Rate (Kbps): 25820 1291

Path 0 Path 1
Downstream Upstream Downstream Upstream
Rate (Kbps): 21009 1308 0 0

MSGc (# of bytes in overhead channel message): 59 16 0 0
B (# of bytes in Mux Data Frame): 66 37 0 0
M (# of Mux Data Frames in FEC Data Frame): 1 1 0 0
T (Mux Data Frames over sync bytes): 9 3 0 0
R (# of check bytes in FEC Data Frame): 10 0 0 0
S (ratio of FEC over PMD Data Frame length): 0.1101 0.9967 0.0 0.0
L (# of bits in PMD Data Frame): 5590 305 0 0
D (interleaver depth): 288 1 0 0
Delay (msec): 7.93 0.24 0.0 0.0
INP (DMT symbol): 2.6 0.0 0.0 0.0

Super Frames: 46240 45304 0 0
Super Frame Errors: 0 0 0 0
RS Words: 27050548 0 0 0
RS Correctable Errors: 0 0 0 0
RS Uncorrectable Errors: 0 0 0 0

HEC Errors: 0 0 0 0
OCD Errors: 0 0 0 0
LCD Errors: 0 0 0 0
Total Cells: 36927604 909040442 0 0
Data Cells: 770636 28081777 0 0
Bit Errors: 0 258788 0 0

Total ES: 0 0
Total SES: 0 0
Total UAS: 30 30
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 04-Mar-12 19:16:54
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[re: LoWLatencY] [link to this post]
 
Are you changing routers sometimes as well? The layout changes.

Edit - the middle lot are taken from a DMT stats listing.

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Edited by RobertoS (Sun 04-Mar-12 19:21:27)

Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 04-Mar-12 19:41:23
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[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
Switching between router measuring 0.1 dBs and one in just dBs (Netgear?)

All readings show:
Attainable Rate: 25.8 Meg
Actual rate: 21.0 Meg
Attenuation: 10 dB
SNR Margin: 6 dB
None look tweaked or it's not taking effect.

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Standard User LoWLatencY
(newbie) Mon 05-Mar-12 13:01:44
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Re: Which ISP or Reseller?


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Are you changing routers sometimes as well? The layout changes.

Edit - the middle lot are taken from a DMT stats listing.


No, stats are taken from the same router.

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