General Discussion
  >> Which ISP?


Register (or login) on our website and you will not see this ad.


Pages in this thread: 1 | 2 | 3 | >> (show all)   Print Thread
Standard User tetnes23
(learned) Wed 30-Jan-13 17:07:05
Print Post

Time for a change I think


[link to this post]
 
Hi I have been with vivacity for about 3-4 years now and never had a problem. Recently my exchange got upgraded to 21CN. Vivacity upped my speeds but I have been looking around and feel I should be able to get a better deal price wise. Currently I am paying £32 a month for 60gb limit. This to me seems like an awful lot and tbh money is tight and I need a cheaper alternative.

My current deal
Family 60 - Monthly charge £30.20 with 60GB monthly peak time allowance

Requirments
I P2P a lot so no throttling
I download a lot so a peak cap min of 60gb and of peak no limit (I tend to schedule downloads for off peak time)
I do like to play online game so a nice ping would be great
I would prefer a monthly contract encase any problems arise then I can jump ship easy enough but I would consider a 1 year contract max

Sam knows details
http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/LCBAR

Edited by tetnes23 (Wed 30-Jan-13 17:14:38)

Standard User huwwatkins
(committed) Wed 30-Jan-13 17:19:43
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: tetnes23] [link to this post]
 
One of the LLU providers is probably your best bet.
Standard User tetnes23
(regular) Wed 30-Jan-13 17:26:29
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: huwwatkins] [link to this post]
 
Forgot to mention I am staying clear of LLU. To much hassle If I am not happy and want to switch.

I am taking a seriouse look at the Plusnet unlimited but find it hard to believe they don't throttle.


Register (or login) on our website and you will not see this ad.

Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Wed 30-Jan-13 18:16:48
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: tetnes23] [link to this post]
 
They don't. They are activating extra capacity to make sure they don't. Only today they added an extra 4.83Gbps: http://usertools.plus.net/status/archive/1359558151.htm

With the way it is being sold if they were not delivering on their promise the Plusnet board would be full of complaints.

jelv

Plusnet user since November 2001
Standard User tetnes23
(regular) Wed 30-Jan-13 19:04:02
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: jelv] [link to this post]
 
according to this they do

http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/speed_guide/tr...

Little confused lol
Standard User gmoorc
(committed) Wed 30-Jan-13 19:22:44
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: tetnes23] [link to this post]
 
Have a read of this which explains their approach very well.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 30-Jan-13 19:23:50
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: tetnes23] [link to this post]
 
It is rather confusing, I agree. Not helped by there being two or three closely related topics covered in different places with a degree of overlap.

The one you link to is valid, only don't think of the "Really busy" section as being worse than it says. For example, the Olympics went through without a hitch and a lot of capacity has been added since then. But if one of the major Plusnet links went down there is a backup plan as described there, and if North Korea chuck a nuclear missile at someone every ISP would be under huge pressure.

The prime link for actual throttling, which used to have rather forbidding tables in every drop-down, not just a bit in a few, is this one. With this very informative blog which explains the effect of the priority levels you just linked to smile. Make sure you read, rather than skip over, the sentence immediately under the picture.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.0/14.9Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Allergy information: This post was manufactured in an environment where nuts are present. It may include traces of understatement, litotes and humour.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 30-Jan-13 19:24:34
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: gmoorc] [link to this post]
 
"Snap!" smile.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.0/14.9Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Allergy information: This post was manufactured in an environment where nuts are present. It may include traces of understatement, litotes and humour.
Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Wed 30-Jan-13 19:30:28
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: tetnes23] [link to this post]
 
Imagine a family with two or three teenagers. If Mum or Dad are trying to use Skype or watch iPlayer and the kids are hammering the connection trying to download the internet using P2P Plusnet's traffic management ensures that Skype and iPlayer are prioritised so they are unaffected and the P2P gets what's left of the line capacity.

jelv

Plusnet user since November 2001
Standard User gmoorc
(committed) Wed 30-Jan-13 19:30:49
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
Yes. But I prefer your more verbose and entertaining style smile
Standard User tetnes23
(regular) Wed 30-Jan-13 19:35:55
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: gmoorc] [link to this post]
 
Seem to have a bit better understanding altho tbh wish would let me manage my traffic myself lol. Plusnet do seem to be a good alternative for me. Tempted to try the service on one month contract for 1-2 months and if I like it upgrade to 12month contract.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 30-Jan-13 19:45:28
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: tetnes23] [link to this post]
 
QoS at your end can only manage the upstream smile. Unless you cage the kids tongue.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.0/14.9Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Allergy information: This post was manufactured in an environment where nuts are present. It may include traces of understatement, litotes and humour.
Standard User tetnes23
(regular) Wed 30-Jan-13 19:48:27
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
Don't understand why wants £50 activation fee for 1 month contract if I am migrating tbh lol sorta takes away the trial element to it.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 30-Jan-13 21:17:49
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: tetnes23] [link to this post]
 
Because somehow they have to make a profit. Openreach charge the gaining ISP for the migration to them, did you know that? Most ISPs recover that cost over time, taking the hit if someone does leave after a month or so, because overall it works out. Especially if you stay - paying the installation cost on the drip inside your monthly subscription long after it has been paid off.

If they charged the prices you find too high at vivaciti then they wouldn't need a connection charge for non-contract. Of course, like nearly all ISPs, if you also take their phone line rental there is no activation fee. That's because they all make far more money on line rental and calls than they do on broadband.

BT for instance don't have a monthly option. Nor Sky and TalkTalk LLU. O2 LLU is a 12-month contract but you can convert to monthly by paying a on-off £30 at order time. Same principle.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.0/14.9Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Allergy information: This post was manufactured in an environment where nuts are present. It may include traces of understatement, litotes and humour.

Edited by RobertoS (Wed 30-Jan-13 21:18:59)

Standard User tetnes23
(regular) Thu 31-Jan-13 08:51:15
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
I do see the logic behind it but I remember when you used to get free trials smile. I have decided to bite the bullet and get 12 month contract including phone this will save me about £30 a month.

Edited by tetnes23 (Thu 31-Jan-13 08:52:09)

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 31-Jan-13 11:10:19
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: tetnes23] [link to this post]
 
smile
It will be fine.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.0/14.9Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Allergy information: This post was manufactured in an environment where nuts are present. It may include traces of understatement, litotes and humour.
Standard User vivaciti
(knowledge is power) Fri 01-Feb-13 16:23:22
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: tetnes23] [link to this post]
 
You could move over to our LLU Unlimited package on your exchange.

www.vivaciti.net
Vivaciti Broadband
0800 0911797

Forum
Facebook
Standard User vivaciti
(knowledge is power) Fri 01-Feb-13 16:25:21
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: tetnes23] [link to this post]
 
Hi,
There is no hassle as long as you stay away from full LLU, with SMPF (partial LLU) if you want to migrate you just request a MAC as with your current product.

www.vivaciti.net
Vivaciti Broadband
0800 0911797

Forum
Facebook
Standard User tetnes23
(regular) Mon 04-Feb-13 20:00:57
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: vivaciti] [link to this post]
 
not an option really as you charge another "20 for traffic shaping to be removed costing me more than I already pay.unless the CW Home is a SMPF service .
Standard User vivaciti
(knowledge is power) Mon 04-Feb-13 20:22:57
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: tetnes23] [link to this post]
 
The LLU unlimited is the CW service and does not have P2P restrictions at all

www.vivaciti.net
Vivaciti Broadband
0800 0911797

Forum
Facebook
Standard User tetnes23
(regular) Mon 04-Feb-13 21:03:30
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: vivaciti] [link to this post]
 
Any chance you could link to the service you are talking about please. You have a lot of packages on yer site.
Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Mon 04-Feb-13 21:50:39
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: tetnes23] [link to this post]
 
Possibly CW Home is the one meant? /shrugs shoulders

Alastair

omadasafisho
Standard User tetnes23
(regular) Mon 04-Feb-13 21:54:59
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: Apprentice] [link to this post]
 
I am hoping it is not tat one tbh as I don't like the idea of 12month contracts but willing to go with one and no way on planet I will go with 24month one.
Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Mon 04-Feb-13 23:13:26
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: tetnes23] [link to this post]
 
I certainly wouldn't take out a BB package with a 24 month contract either, 12 months is long enough for me.

Alastair

omadasafisho
Standard User vivaciti
(knowledge is power) Tue 05-Feb-13 09:05:06
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: tetnes23] [link to this post]
 
he link is: http://www.vivaciti.net/product/1/home-internet/25/b...

www.vivaciti.net
Vivaciti Broadband
0800 0911797

Forum
Facebook
Standard User tetnes23
(regular) Tue 05-Feb-13 10:54:20
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: vivaciti] [link to this post]
 
is that one SMPF

Btw I posted on Vivacity forums asking a few questions smile.

Edited by tetnes23 (Tue 05-Feb-13 10:55:19)

Standard User vivaciti
(knowledge is power) Tue 05-Feb-13 11:05:51
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: tetnes23] [link to this post]
 
Yes it is SMPF

www.vivaciti.net
Vivaciti Broadband
0800 0911797

Forum
Facebook
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 06-Feb-13 10:25:40
Print Post

Re: Time for a change I think


[re: tetnes23] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by tetnes23:
Forgot to mention I am staying clear of LLU. To much hassle If I am not happy and want to switch.

I am taking a seriouse look at the Plusnet unlimited but find it hard to believe they don't throttle.


Full LLU can be a pain. do your exchange have cable and wireless? If so then Vivaciti offers a cable and wireless part LLU service for just under £20 a month. a mate of mine is on it and have had no problems, I was on the ADSL24 version of it for 2 years and i loved it.

Far better than any Bt based system, no profiling, i think cable and wireless now got a sort of profiling, but it can be switched off. so you get the speed you connect at.

you can do all your P2P, no traffic management and unlimited. Because it is only part LLu, it is easy to change to another provider using a MAC.

Adrian

Desktop machine now powered by windows 7 pro 64bit , laptop by ubuntu

ALLPAY Wireless broadband
Pages in this thread: 1 | 2 | 3 | >> (show all)   Print Thread

Jump to