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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 17-Dec-13 18:29:21
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Re: Who to change to?


[re: allie] [link to this post]
 
No.

The BT Wholesale network capacity makes Sky's look tiny, though Sky's is immense. Plusnet ensure their feeds from BT Wholesale are big enough, with daily checks keeping it ahead of customer growth.

If you look at these graphs, the green is the minimum latency on those connections, sampled every second and calculated every 100 seconds. In other words each vertical line represents the average of 100 tests. Blue is the average latency in the 100 seconds, and yellow is the peak.

(21CN is in effect an old and slightly inaccurate term for ADSL2+).

The solid red means the router is switched off. The yellow and blue on the ones I see there just indicate heavy use by the customer - congestion shows as hills at the same time and place on all. We have seen those when they got their forecasts wrong, but they soon sorted it.

You don't need to worry with either Sky or PlusNet.

But PLEASE check your estimate using the address checker I gave you the link to. Best to copy and paste the result here, for opinions on what it says.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Edited by RobertoS (Tue 17-Dec-13 18:30:33)

Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 17-Dec-13 18:32:56
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Re: Who to change to?


[re: allie] [link to this post]
 
Not necessarily! They both use ADSL2+ but PN & other WBC ISPs will allow the NM to go down to 3dB on stable lines.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 17-Dec-13 18:40:18
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[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
Cutoffs, schmutoffs! 1 man's router discon is another's 'failed to load webpage'. What matters here is not why AOL was so bad, but that most LLU & WBC ISPs will be superior.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC


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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 17-Dec-13 18:48:11
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[re: XRaySpeX] [link to this post]
 
Nope - I'm not buying that.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Edited by RobertoS (Tue 17-Dec-13 18:51:00)

Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Tue 17-Dec-13 19:15:41
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Re: Who to change to?


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Who do you have your calls and land line rental with?

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Standard User allie
(newbie) Tue 17-Dec-13 19:52:39
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Re: Who to change to?


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BT although not really happy with their planned price increase in January lol!
Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Tue 17-Dec-13 22:19:15
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Re: Who to change to?


[re: allie] [link to this post]
 
If you go to Sky for BB then you'll have to move your phone (call+line rental) to them as well i.e. full LLU or MPF (Metallic Path Facility)

If moving from MPF back to WBC:- http://www.kitz.co.uk/isp/migration.htm#LLU_migration

Alastair

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Standard User kamelion
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 21-Dec-13 23:22:49
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Re: Who to change to?


[re: Apprentice] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Apprentice:
If you go to Sky for BB then you'll have to move your phone (call+line rental) to them as well i.e. full LLU or MPF (Metallic Path Facility)

If moving from MPF back to WBC:- http://www.kitz.co.uk/isp/migration.htm#LLU_migration


No they won't. Sky aren't forcing anyone to move their phone line unless they are already with either O2 or BE for their phone line rental too.

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Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Sun 22-Dec-13 08:55:43
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That's good, so does that mean if the OP decided to use Sky for the broadband connection and leave line rental/calls with BT the broadband service would be via Sky's LLU network?

Alastair

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 22-Dec-13 09:25:17
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Re: Who to change to?


[re: Apprentice] [link to this post]
 
Yes.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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