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Blind spot I suspect - how do I close an Internet Explorer or other window / tile in Windows 8 metro mode on a laptop ?
Alt-F4 works, but I can't imagine I'm supposed to be using that !
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Alt-F4, as you say, works and is the quickest way to close Metro apps. Why would you not be supposed to use it? It's the easiest way of closing any Windows application - always has been.
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If you move the mouse pointer to the very top of the screen it should change into a little hand, drag the page to the very bottom to close
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I can't imagine the child that designed it envisaged use of a keyboard shortcut to close an app 
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I suspect they did - why else did they build it in to the system?
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They didn't. As another poster stated the design is that you grab the top of the app and drag it to the bottom of the screen. Really odd using a mouse but surprisingly easy and natural with touch.
Makes it really quick to close the application on a touchscreen. Everything in W8 metro is designed for touch and can be awkward with a mouse.
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They didn't. Yes they did. As the OP states, Alt-F4 will close a Metro app. It's not the only way of doing it - Windows has always offered a number of ways to close programs, and it still does.
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From the desktop with a mouse, move to upper left and right click - close on App.
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I disagree. They envisaged doing it by touch - win8 metro is almost entirely designed around touch. The alt-f4 is MS doing the usual providing support for everything past - one of the reasons windows is increasingly bloated.
Win8 is nice on a touchscreen but not as natural with keyboard/mouse.
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Microsoft provide several ways of closing programs (as they always have done). They do so because they envisage different methods suiting different people. Choice is good.
I appreciate that you prefer to use Windows 8 with a touch interface. Others of us find that it works just fine with a keyboard and mouse. No-one is right, and no-one is wrong.
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And no-one knows exactly what MS envisaged.
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Yes. We can only judge from what they put in the final product.
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I suspect they did - why else did they build it in to the system?
it's left over from earlier versions
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From the desktop with a mouse, move to upper left and right click - close on App.
Thanks, another non-intuitive one !
Windows 6.2 is such fun 
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I suspect they did - why else did they build it in to the system?
it's left over from earlier versions
Wrong, they are intended With Windows 8 and Windows RT, you can use the keyboard shortcuts you're already using, and you'll find new ones too.
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that just shows they are intentionally left over, like a very large part of Windows is.
They weren't invented for 6.2 but I wasn't implying they were there by accident - just that your typical user in the general population doesn't know Alt-F4 and ends up staring at the screen wondering how to close the app so I doubt it was the design use case for a keyboard & mouse.
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and the answer from MS is.....
"Close an app. When you�re not using an app you opened from the Start screen, Windows will eventually close it. But you can also manually close an app if you want to."
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that just shows they are intentionally left over Wrong, the link also lists a whole new set of keyboard shortcuts that have been incorporated.
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similarly on the Apple iPhone.
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that just shows they are intentionally left over Wrong, the link also lists a whole new set of keyboard shortcuts that have been incorporated.
So if I'm wrong the old ones were accidentally left over. LOL.
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that would explain why I don't get on with the one button design. Now I know the design is for apps to rot away in the background I'll just keep an eye on the resources management instead of trying to close stuff I'm finished with.
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I was at a MS event where one of the tech envangelists for W8 did say that users don't actually need to close W8 apps as when they go into the background they pretty much stop using resources. Essentially the apps suspend. Because of this they expect all W8 apps to be left running (of course this is not the case with anything that runs in the desktop mode).
There are of course exceptions - emails will continue updating, software updates will carry on, etc. But, these are all done via stubs rather than the full application.
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He was wrong then as anyone using a WM phone will tell you. You do get better battery life if you totally close apps.
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He may well be wrong but that is the way MS sell it to their customers.
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That is the theory of course, but misbehaving applications will still consume memory/resources when they shouldn't. Just look at Android for an example of this.
Windows Phone is actually very good at managing stuff even if you leave apps running, I've never had a problem when I have left them running, but by default I close them as force of habit.
Windows RT, I know that if I have a ton of apps open on my Surface RT it will drastically slow down, so Microsoft do have some work to do in this regard.
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As you say badly written code is probably responsible for tombstoned apps still wriggling. I tend to close everything down after each extended session of usage where I have been doing several things.
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