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Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Tue 30-Sep-14 19:45:47
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Windows 10 has a change for Command Prompt: you can now copy and paste into it, and select words and lines using the Shift key.


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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 30-Sep-14 19:56:42
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So can XP.

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Standard User Pipexer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 30-Sep-14 20:13:56
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Not using the standard shortcut keys by default.

Windows 10 looks like it is going to be a very nice improvement yet again. The only possible thing that could let it down is if they truely start forcing users into their cloud services. As long as that is optional (and I think it will be) then I will be very much looking forward to it.

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 30-Sep-14 20:29:55
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Batty is selling it short. Resizable start menu with live tiles that is customisable on the fly. New task manager/action centre and multiple desktops to mention just a few.

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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 30-Sep-14 20:41:38
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Of course! I think the point is though that they are still catering for the power users/admins.

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Standard User GeoffB
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 30-Sep-14 20:58:41
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Why this obsession with tiles? OK for tablets etc. but a waste of time on a decent desktop (or even laptop). They'll never improve upon Win7 at this rate, but I'll reserve judgement for a bit until I've seen the full Monty, so to speak.

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Standard User bobble_bob
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 30-Sep-14 21:06:38
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Think its to create a consistent design so everything looks similar on phone, tablet, xbox and PC. Problem is when its a mouse tiles are pointless
Standard User Pipexer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 30-Sep-14 23:26:31
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Why this obsession with tiles?

I believe you can remove the tiles, but if a few minutes of customization to remove them is a problem by all means stick with Windows 7!

When you have a touch screen computer or laptop, or have a tablet that you move around and/or dock and connect keyboard and mice, the tiles make a lot of sense.

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Standard User GeoffB
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 01-Oct-14 22:01:59
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Microsoft clearly know that the whole Win8/8.1 saga has not been their finest hour and that the whole mobile/tile-based interface versus traditional start button issue could have been avoided by asking their customers. Tiles are fine on my Windows phone where the screen is quite small but I don't want them on a computer, even with a touchscreen. Win7 is the choice in most business environments and that says it all. I've used Windows ever since I had to boot 3.1 from a floppy and I have to say that 8 is my least favourite!

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Standard User philippercival
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 02-Oct-14 00:07:17
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Can one install the preview on a virtual machine using vmware?

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Standard User Moto
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 02-Oct-14 07:44:14
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Probably - I have it installed in Hyper-V

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Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Thu 02-Oct-14 08:36:39
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I dare say, the ISOs are available http://blog.laptopmag.com/safely-install-windows-10-...


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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 02-Oct-14 20:34:22
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You can now join the program

https://insider.windows.com/

Not done it myself yet, but got as far as the agreement page for it

Downloads coming soon.

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Standard User DavidFinbarr
(freechataholic) Fri 03-Oct-14 09:08:39
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I had a play around with it.
Seemed just like Win 8 to me (with the settings I use)

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Standard User MrTAToad2
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 04-Oct-14 01:04:27
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Is it fast ? Tried any game on it ?

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Standard User DavidFinbarr
(freechataholic) Tue 07-Oct-14 20:42:57
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I thought it seemed slightly faster, I don't play games.

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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Fri 10-Oct-14 14:36:49
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the installer hard freezes the pc I am testing on.

hard locks when says getting ready, does same point every time.

Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Fri 10-Oct-14 15:54:27
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fixed now disabled extra controllers.

Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 13-Oct-14 09:41:40
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I will wait to have a look when the features it is going to have gets locked in and things are not going to change.

I will stick it on a virtual machine just to have a look, but to be honest, I have got Windows 8.1 as i want it, with a nice start menu. i really do not see the need to change.

If MS offer it free as a update, I will think about it, but I am certainly not buying another version of windows. i only use windows these days for video editing and a few games.

Linux is what I used mainly these days.

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Standard User MrTAToad2
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 13-Oct-14 13:02:27
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Fair enough

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 15-Oct-14 00:43:16
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Eventually got round to trying the Test Build in a VM and its seems quite snappy. Odd happening after resuming from a suspend I got several This PC icons on the desktop which disappeared after clicking on them.

Have already sent feedback asking for a smoother windows update experience and less reboots.

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 23-Oct-14 21:24:19
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New preview build available via PC Settings/Update/Download Preview.

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Standard User MrTAToad2
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 26-Oct-14 12:27:53
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And is it better ?

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 26-Oct-14 18:45:30
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Shutdown issue has been fixed along with 7000 other tweaks. One noticeable thing is the windows now collapse in on themselves to the centre when closed. Still looking.

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Standard User MrTAToad2
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 03-Nov-14 12:14:27
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What I would like to see, is proper game program shutdown when it crashes (or can't handle ALT+TAB properly) - you go to right-click over the icon and select End Program, and.... nothing happens.

You cant use Task Manager unless it's set to be alway on top (otherwise you can shutdown the program there), because this window will be behind the game window (and ALT+TABbing may bring up the list of active windows, but all lead to blackness).

And does Explorer still crash/hang when trying to read a damaged CD ?

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Standard User iand
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 05-Nov-14 19:07:10
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why not have a go yourself using Virtualbox and a download of windows 10 preview?.

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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 05-Nov-14 21:25:48
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And does Explorer still crash/hang when trying to read a damaged CD ?

Microsoft aren't going to bother fixing that "bug" these days, with CDs being less and less used, in fact, they have almost stated their position on that and why they aren't going to fix it.

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Standard User Pipexer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 05-Nov-14 21:26:18
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Trouble is VirtualBox really does not do it justice.. For dev testing and stuff however it is fine.

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Standard User MrTAToad2
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 06-Nov-14 22:13:51
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Cant be bothered! Dont really like all the tracking incorporated in it either.

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Standard User MrTAToad2
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 06-Nov-14 22:14:24
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In that case swap CD with DVD or Blueray

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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 07-Nov-14 20:06:44
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In that case swap CD with DVD or Blueray

Yes - point still stands, who uses that stuff these days much on a PC?

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Standard User MrTAToad2
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 07-Nov-14 20:34:21
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I would think quite a few people!

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Standard User cheshire_man
(knowledge is power) Fri 07-Nov-14 21:03:57
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+1

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Standard User Pipexer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 07-Nov-14 21:26:38
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I would think quite a few people!

News to me - I very rarely put any media in the optical drive on PCs these days, and even less so damaged media.

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Standard User MrTAToad2
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 08-Nov-14 00:38:13
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News to me - I'm surprised anyone has gone totally cloud-based.

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 08-Nov-14 09:05:24
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Cant be bothered! Dont really like all the tracking incorporated in it either.


I read about that and not that impressed with that either. anyway I have got windows 8.1 set as I want it now with a nice start menu, I have no need to muck about putting windows 10 on with a start menu that looks like the start screen.

Not interested in any of the metro/modern UI apps, so I have no reason to run them on the desktop.

Windows 10 offers me nothing.

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 08-Nov-14 09:07:37
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News to me - I'm surprised anyone has gone totally cloud-based.


i still got got a Blu-ray writer and will use it again once I get out and abaout and do some more camera work.

I admit I do not normally put Cd in the drive, but I still back stuff onto DVD. I tend not to use the cloud that much, too much spying and tracking.

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Standard User broadband66
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 08-Nov-14 11:38:12
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Existing CDs on to ITunes is impossible without one unless you connect the HIFI direct or wirelessly to the PC.

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 09-Nov-14 20:08:14
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Existing CDs on to ITunes is impossible without one unless you connect the HIFI direct or wirelessly to the PC.


Who in their right mind use Itunes? smile

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Standard User The_Voyager
(committed) Mon 10-Nov-14 10:13:41
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In reply to a post by broadband66:
Existing CDs on to ITunes is impossible without one unless you connect the HIFI direct or wirelessly to the PC.


Who in their right mind use Itunes? smile


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Standard User broadband66
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 10-Nov-14 16:05:45
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ITunes is useful to get music from a CD on to another device - hence the discussion.

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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 11-Nov-14 08:50:46
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ITunes is useful to get music from a CD on to another device - hence the discussion.


Lots of software available to do that.

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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 11-Nov-14 08:51:34
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People who like to spend lots of money to get themselves tied in to Apple products, the rest of us go with more open systems.


A friend of mine who have a few Macs don't even use Itunes, she hates it.

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Standard User The_Voyager
(committed) Tue 11-Nov-14 10:24:07
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Exactly, and some of it Open Source, and as for this new Win 10, or Win 8 for that matter might look good on tablets and mobile phones, and maybe touch screen laptops, but for Desktops this Metro i/f is diabolical and nothing they do will change my mind from leaving Win 7. I love my Aero style DT, and the way Win 7 works, so why would I want to change, when they finally decide to retire it then I will probably give up altogether and change over to Linux, rather than pay MicroSnot for an atrocious piece of s**t

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Standard User broadband66
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 11-Nov-14 14:34:49
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Yes that is true but ITunes is free and does the job. The point is a CD player on a PC/Laptop is still very useful.

Let's not forget that CD's sound better than downloads (less compression) and vinyl sounds better that CD. New formats aren't necessarily better and there is still a market for turntables and CD players.

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 12-Nov-14 21:58:04
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New build available to download in PC Support section.

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Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Sat 22-Nov-14 11:57:26
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Kernel version 10.0

Windows Vista was with kernel 6.0, whereas Windows 7 has 6.1. The kernel used for Windows 8 is 6.2, and 6.3 for Windows 8.1. The previous Windows 10 Technical Preview used kernel version 6.4 against v10.0 of build 9888.



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