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Standard User MrTAToad2
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 05-Dec-15 21:30:46
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Another fine mess by Microsoft...


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Apparently people have been getting problems trying to install "Update for Windows 10 Version 1511 for x64-based Systems (KB3122947)". Apparently this has been caused by the previous update not preserving settings, and possibly s lot worse...

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 05-Dec-15 21:53:25
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Just checked for updates and this update installed no problem on 32 bit win 10 pro without a reboot, maybe they fixed it now?

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 05-Dec-15 23:13:44
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Maybe there's a difference between the 32-bit and 64-bit versions tongue smile.

(The code will almost certainly be different, to take advantage of the enhanced instruction set on 64-bit).

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Standard User petsy
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 05-Dec-15 23:23:00
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Installed here on both 32 and 64 bit win 10 without issue...
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 05-Dec-15 23:39:43
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Who knows the cause smile. It's a report by the OP, not a personal problem.

My post is still valid. The 32-bit and 64-bit versions almost certainly have different code. Whether either works or fails will depend on the individual target configuration.

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Standard User BB4Tickton
(committed) Sun 06-Dec-15 08:45:01
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I had the similar problem, 2 x 64bit PC's, 1 installed the update with no problem, the other would not install at all. The easiest way I found was to go here and download the file and install it manually which worked straight away:

https://catalog.update.microsoft.com
Standard User TinyMongomery
(experienced) Sun 06-Dec-15 09:06:00
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There have also been problems reported with the 32-bit version: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/ins... It is true that the instructions sets are different on 32- and 64-bit systems, and the compiler will produce different instructions for the same code, but this is unlikely to be the problem here. (Such an error in the compiler would surely have been discovered by now.) It is much more likely that it is just a simple error in the shared source code for both versions.
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 06-Dec-15 12:55:50
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Aside from the recurring update issue with my Windows 10 installation, of Windows freezing/hanging directly after update requiring a hard reboot, KB3122947 works ok.

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Standard User TinyMongomery
(experienced) Sun 06-Dec-15 13:02:17
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The problem does seem to be very specific to certain hardware/software combinations. I've yet to experience a piece of software that didn't suffer some bugs, so it's hardly a Microsoft monopoly.
Standard User MrTAToad2
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 06-Dec-15 22:05:10
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3 out of 4 machines had the problem. I cant think of a common factor. Some machines have Intel processors and some have AMD; some have nVidia processors and some have AMD.

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Standard User rogerfp
(member) Sun 06-Dec-15 22:25:14
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Very unlikely, I would have thought to be a processor, video card or other hardware issue. Most likely software issue or conflict.
First thing in these situations is to download the update locally, disable all startup programs inc Antivirus and 3rd party services. Disconnect from the Internet, restart and run the update from the download.
Usually works 95% of the time.
Are these 4, all your PC's? If so, what software/services are running that is common on all machines?
Standard User bobble_bob
(knowledge is power) Mon 07-Dec-15 17:34:22
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Must be a nightmare to test Windows Updates as no 2 PC's (once the user has played with them for abit) will ever be identical. All will have various setups and configurations different to the next person
Standard User Pipexer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 09-Dec-15 19:13:01
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In reply to a post by bobble_bob:
Must be a nightmare to test Windows Updates as no 2 PC's (once the user has played with them for abit) will ever be identical. All will have various setups and configurations different to the next person

They go through a fairly rigerous testing process at Microsoft. So far the only Windows Update that ever affected me was a patch for the .NET 4 Framework affected SCCM 2012 on a server running Windows Server 2008 R2. It took Microsoft a few days to fix the issue so in the meantime had to uninstall the update.

Considering how many times I've done Windows Update and on how many machines, that is not bad going really.

Maybe all the users on this forum who seem to experience issues every month on multiple machines are just unlucky, eh?....

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Standard User bobble_bob
(knowledge is power) Wed 09-Dec-15 19:34:01
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Out of interest how are security issues found? Are they found internally so they can be patched, or do MS take the Google approach and offer rewards for people who find security flaws?
Standard User TinyMongomery
(experienced) Wed 09-Dec-15 19:39:59
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Both. But they don't offer a reward. After all, it's in everyone's interest to get bugs squashed. You can report vulnerabilities here: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/ff85209...
Standard User Pipexer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 10-Dec-15 17:47:27
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In reply to a post by bobble_bob:
Out of interest how are security issues found? Are they found internally so they can be patched, or do MS take the Google approach and offer rewards for people who find security flaws?

I think more than half are found externally but often by the larger companies and security bods, rather than individuals just happening to come across the issues, but that also can happen too. Any major exploits being seen in the wild will result in an out-of-band patch.

Some good linsk here:

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/cc30858...
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/gg30915...
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/ff85209...

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