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Standard User johnjburness
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 30-Aug-16 17:42:21
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Windows 10 Version 1607 (KB3176934) availability?


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All right, I know I could search & find a manual download of this, but does anyone know why I'm not seeing this automatically?

In fact, although my "check-now" history is up to date, my PC hasn't offered any updates (Security or otherwise) since 9th August)!!

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John
Standard User petsy
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 30-Aug-16 20:01:14
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You could try checking settings>update & security>windows update>advanced options.
Uncheck Defer upgrade if checked...
Be aware that if you have a Logitech webcam it will most likely freeze if you use skype with 1607.
Standard User johnjburness
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 30-Aug-16 20:43:47
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In reply to a post by petsy:
You could try checking settings>update & security>windows update>advanced options.
Uncheck Defer upgrade if checked...
Be aware that if you have a Logitech webcam it will most likely freeze if you use skype with 1607.

I don't appear to have a "Defer Upgrade" option!!

Regards,
John


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Standard User cheshire_man
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 31-Aug-16 07:09:59
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It's not on the Home version of Win 10.

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Standard User herbgold
(member) Wed 31-Aug-16 08:35:53
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This is the "Anniversary Update", yes? It is a bit strange. I've just received a shiny new Surface Pro 4 (nice!) and when I first switched it on it spent ages downloading and installing Windows updates, but not Version 1607, which I presume is really to be treated like a new version of Windows.

(I was able to download and install Version 1607 separately, which I did largely for the new pen support.)

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Standard User rob54
(committed) Sun 04-Sep-16 20:24:54
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It didn't download automatically (the anniversary update I mean) for me either. I made a manual update late last evening. After 2.5hrs the pc froze while using Firefox. Had no option but to press reset. Luckily the PC restarted OK (this is now past 2 in the morning) update not made.
So tried again today. Much more than three hours later it is there. This update took far longer than the original Win 7-10 update.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 04-Sep-16 21:44:05
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So tried again today. Much more than three hours later it is there. This update took far longer than the original Win 7-10 update.
That's because there weren't any cockups to try to put right in the initial install wink smile.

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Standard User rob54
(committed) Sun 04-Sep-16 22:00:37
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Maybe you're right and we can look forward to more mammoth updates to put right these cockups built into this one! I see they fixed a freezing problem in the last day or so.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 04-Sep-16 22:29:49
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Yep, SV2 no doubt in 6 months.





Oops! They don't call them that any more, do they. It should be interesting over the next decade to see what they call each one, seeing as Windows 10 is the last ever name for a new OS. That there will never be another completely new one.

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Standard User rob54
(committed) Mon 05-Sep-16 23:06:36
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Replying to myself here....seems there are cockups in this anniversary update that affect my system anyway. Only a short time after (yesterday and today) I had constant problems with ethernet. Internet to the phone on wifi remained fine. I could not even get the PC to talk to the router. I decided it had to be the update so I have rolled it back to version 1511. All fine now.
I think I want to prevent it trying to do it automatically too. Not sure how.

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Standard User johnjburness
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 06-Sep-16 20:46:22
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Eventually I did a manual download & upgrade (?).

Didn't have too many problems until it re-started & it immediately de-installed my "Classic-Shell" stating that it was not compatible (no pre-warning before upgrading) - despite the fact that I had already upgraded my Classic-Shell to a Win-10 Anniversary compatible version!!!

I re-downloaded & installed Classic-Shell, but it took ages & ages to function properly (kept stating it was still organising, or something like that)!

It eventually settled down & is now fully working!

Regards,
John
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 06-Sep-16 22:52:23
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Yes, it looks like every time 1 of these major updates comes along we will have to reinstall Classic Shell, even tho' it is compatible with Win 10. Same thing happened on upgrade from Win 8.1 to 10.

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Standard User David_W
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 07-Sep-16 10:28:04
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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
Yes, it looks like every time 1 of these major updates comes along we will have to reinstall Classic Shell, even tho' it is compatible with Win 10. Same thing happened on upgrade from Win 8.1 to 10.

The sometimes forced uninstallations are an attempt to prevent incompatible software being left installed. Sometimes compatible versions are not released until the blacklist of software to be uninstalled has been finalised, resulting in compatible versions falling foul of the blacklist and being uninstalled.

It is probably best to accept that some software will have to be reinstalled after one of these updates. I do not believe there are grounds to conclude that Microsoft are singling out Classic Shell.



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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 08-Sep-16 05:53:42
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So let the user discover that HIS software is incompatible with Windows and take what action HE decides. It's a [censored] cheek! MS being a nanny state!

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Standard User David_W
(knowledge is power) Thu 08-Sep-16 10:01:40
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The user will not be happy if the result of the upgrade is unbootable or totally unusable. It is better, on balance, for the user to be forced to seek out and install compatible versions, even though the cost is that sometimes a nuisance uninstall of compatible software takes place.

If you keep copies of installers and serial numbers to hand, it doesn't take long to reinstall one or two programs.



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Standard User johnjburness
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 09-Sep-16 22:35:26
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In reply to a post by David_W:
It is probably best to accept that some software will have to be reinstalled after one of these updates. I do not believe there are grounds to conclude that Microsoft are singling out Classic Shell.

Yes & No!!

As far as I could tell, MS handled the "Anniversary" version update in the same way as they handled the initial update to Win-10 - as an install of a brand-new version (rather than a simple update).

When they did the Win-10 update they checked ALL existing non-MS Software & advised if they considered there to be problems - hence it becomes MY decision whether to proceed or not!

In this case, I was NOT given any warning, just a "tough-we-have-deleted-it" attitude!!

Fortunately, in my case, it was an "irritant" & NOT a "problem" - but I could envisage the possibility that a critical bit of software could have been arbitrarily deleted, hence preventing the user getting at some critical data!

Regards,
John
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 09-Sep-16 23:57:14
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I'm currently running with my HP 3-in-1 screwed up. Printing from the web wirelessly through my router the header and footer system-inserted lines are fine. The content is so faint as to be completely unreadable and colour is absent frown.

All was fine on 8.1 and the original upgrade to Win 10.

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